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Slowcow · Jun 29, 2023

Jdunn55 said:
Anyone using these tags at all? If so how you getting on?

All my feeding runs off Eid tags and am fed up with the cows losing plastic flag/button tags and then not being fed properly. Hoping these will last better?

Experiencing a 10% flag tag loss before weaning them as calves is frustrating to say the least

Been using them for about 18months now, so far not lost one! They read better than the buttons too.

Just not with your eyes

organicguy · Jun 29, 2023

Scholsey said:
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Second half of second cut seem to be non stop silaging with having 2 blocks 2 weeks apart.

Been there done that, PITA but I'd do it again to have that much grass!

Happy hillbily · Jun 29, 2023

organicguy said:
Been there done that, PITA but I'd do it again to have that much grass!

Jdunn55 · Jun 29, 2023

Slowcow said:
Been using them for about 18months now, so far not lost one! They read better than the buttons too.

Just not with your eyes

Awesome, was hoping for that answer, I know who they all are anyway, it's only red craptor and the feeders who need to read them!

som farmer · Jun 29, 2023

Jdunn55 said:
Anyone using these tags at all? If so how you getting on?

All my feeding runs off Eid tags and am fed up with the cows losing plastic flag/button tags and then not being fed properly. Hoping these will last better?

Experiencing a 10% flag tag loss before weaning them as calves is frustrating to say the least

you want to try buying in calves, some farms are nearly 50% tag loss, or different numbers in each ear ! Because they won't see the calf again, they just stick the tag in.

Got a couple of cows that get through tags, on a very regular basis, don't know how they do it, but they do.

TS have a record of all replacement tags ordered, if you order too many, they start looking.

easy farming · Jun 29, 2023

DairyNerd said:
Bet you all wish you had a rig as good as this for buffering, second day of feeding silage, first cut bales.

Gone 10 in 7 today too, will see how it goes.

We have four of them, but not in as good condition as yours. Keep going, you will be joining us on OAD soon.

Spudley · Jun 30, 2023

That will have to do for today.

Spudley · Jun 30, 2023

All shades of green today

Martyn · Jun 30, 2023

@Beef farmer @Cows 'n grass

How big a shed would be required to loose house 60-75 spring calving Friesian cows?

How big would a self feed clamp be?

Simple OAD system cows out most of the year even just a few hours.

Asking for a friend.

Sid · Jun 30, 2023

Martyn said:
@Beef farmer @Cows 'n grass

How big a shed would be required to loose house 60-75 spring calving Friesian cows?

How big would a self feed clamp be?

Simple OAD system cows out most of the year even just a few hours.

Asking for a friend.

To organic standards would be different

Martyn · Jun 30, 2023

Sid said:
To organic standards would be different

Even if out grazing daily?

som farmer · Jun 30, 2023

rule of thumb used to be 72square feet lying area, and 18 ins face.

Cows 'n grass · Jun 30, 2023

Martyn said:
@Beef farmer @Cows 'n grass

How big a shed would be required to loose house 60-75 spring calving Friesian cows?

How big would a self feed clamp be?

Simple OAD system cows out most of the year even just a few hours.

Asking for a friend.

I would say a sensible minimum of 5sqm/head of bedded area and 20cm feed space. You can keep them clean with a sensible amount of straw at this level but more space is better.

If they spend less time in they'll need less bedded area but need more feed face if on self feed.

15 years ago we were supposed to have 10sqm/ head for soil association.

Sid · Jun 30, 2023

Cows 'n grass said:
15 years ago we were supposed to have 10sqm/ head for soil association

Loafing and lying I would think?

easy farming · Jun 30, 2023

Martyn said:
@Beef farmer @Cows 'n grass

How big a shed would be required to loose house 60-75 spring calving Friesian cows?

How big would a self feed clamp be?

Simple OAD system cows out most of the year even just a few hours.

Asking for a friend.

AHDB have a video on Youtube for self feed silage, IIRCC 6-9 inches per cow?

Martyn · Jun 30, 2023

Cows 'n grass said:
I would say a sensible minimum of 5sqm/head of bedded area and 20cm feed space. You can keep them clean with a sensible amount of straw at this level but more space is better.

If they spend less time in they'll need less bedded area but need more feed face if on self feed.

15 years ago we were supposed to have 10sqm/ head for soil association.

easy farming said:
AHDB have a video on Youtube for self feed silage, IIRCC 6-9 inches per cow?

Thanks

Basically looking at the cheapest/simplest/low labour unit I can build on a grazing block of 107 acres.

Thinking one large shed, with parlour/collection yard on a lean too, and the rest a clamp/loose house.

Thinking of putting in small collection pit for parlour waste water - empty weekly upto other dairy unit large slurry laggoon, then a total straw based yfm system. Compost system onto arable/maize ground.

Basically milk one unit am one unit pm. Jersey would be best suited (small/light weight)but that doesn't suit our dairy beef system.

Cows 'n grass · Jun 30, 2023

Martyn said:
Thanks

Basically looking at the cheapest/simplest/low labour unit I can build on a grazing block of 107 acres.

Thinking one large shed, with parlour/collection yard on a lean too, and the rest a clamp/loose house.

Thinking of putting in small collection pit for parlour waste water - empty weekly upto other dairy unit large slurry laggoon, then a total straw based yfm system. Compost system onto arable/maize ground.

Basically milk one unit am one unit pm. Jersey would be best suited (small/light weight)but that doesn't suit our dairy beef system.

Definitely too far to walk them back to the current parlour?

Dragon · Jun 30, 2023

Cows 'n grass said:
Definitely too far to walk them back to the current parlour?

No. 47 bus might be passing.

Dragon · Jun 30, 2023

Tricky to get them back again!!

Martyn · Jun 30, 2023

Cows 'n grass said:
Definitely too far to walk them back to the current parlour?

Slight planning long term agenda to be milking on this block, and road limitations

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