Ratchet strap lashing points

Paddington · Jul 21, 2023

There aren't any front and rear on my flat bed trailer (Brian James). Look on their website to see if they were an option ? No. I've got rope hooks aplenty down the sides and cut outs in the trailer bed, which aren't much use if the bales cover the entire bed. Let's see what the DoT manual says about lashing points, I can't use straps on rope hooks. I can't weld lashing points to the trailer as this would compromise the design, nor drill into the chassis to fit mountings, which is naughty. I can't remember the last time I saw a load secured by ropes, apart from myself. I could buy straps fitted with D rings, but then I couldn't use them to fit in the cut outs. Having two sets of straps seems a bit excessive for the use the trailer gets. The DoT manual also recommends not using a ratchet mechanism on a rope hook as they are not designed to take the strain. For the cost of a few pounds on a several thousand pound trailer, why can't manufacturers fit rings all round as standard ?

Netherfield · Jul 21, 2023

That's question you should be asking Brian James isn't it?

davidroberts30 · Jul 21, 2023

hook the ratchet straps to the trailer chassis

Dave W · Jul 21, 2023

Paddington said:
There aren't any front and rear on my flat bed trailer (Brian James). Look on their website to see if they were an option ? No. I've got rope hooks aplenty down the sides and cut outs in the trailer bed, which aren't much use if the bales cover the entire bed. Let's see what the DoT manual says about lashing points, I can't use straps on rope hooks. I can't weld lashing points to the trailer as this would compromise the design, nor drill into the chassis to fit mountings, which is naughty. I can't remember the last time I saw a load secured by ropes, apart from myself. I could buy straps fitted with D rings, but then I couldn't use them to fit in the cut outs. Having two sets of straps seems a bit excessive for the use the trailer gets. The DoT manual also recommends not using a ratchet mechanism on a rope hook as they are not designed to take the strain. For the cost of a few pounds on a several thousand pound trailer, why can't manufacturers fit rings all round as standard ?

Graham Edwards have been putting proper strap mounting points in the cross members for years. One of the main reasons I buy their trailers.
Even though everyone raves about ifor

Fendt516profi · Jul 21, 2023

Make a loop out of baler band to hook on rope hooks then hook rachet strap on that

PI Stsker · Jul 21, 2023

You can’t strap to the chassis?

Dave W said:
Graham Edwards have been putting proper strap mounting points in the cross members for years. One of the main reasons I buy their trailers.
Even though everyone raves about ifor

Having both 16ft Tri axle flat bed ifor & Graham Edwards trailers I really can’t see the fascination!
the Ifor shakes and rattles and unless set perfectly on the tow vehicle bounces like buggery when empty.
The Graham Edwards is silent to the point when empty you have to swerve abit on the motorway to check it’s still there, and no matter the tow vehicles ball hitch height tows beautiful. and is cheaper to buy…

EDIT: the ifor might carry the weight slightly better, and I mean very slightly. To the point where the pros of silent non bouncy running on route to pick the load up out weighs the cons.

Paddington · Jul 21, 2023

Looks like a couple of bits of polypropylene rope around the chassis rails at the front (the spare wheel and strap box are in the way to get a strap in) and hooks around the ramp holders at the back. I'm used to bodging things, but this is the only piece of kit I have had from new.

Dave W · Jul 21, 2023

Paddington said:
There aren't any front and rear on my flat bed trailer (Brian James). Look on their website to see if they were an option ? No. I've got rope hooks aplenty down the sides and cut outs in the trailer bed, which aren't much use if the bales cover the entire bed. Let's see what the DoT manual says about lashing points, I can't use straps on rope hooks. I can't weld lashing points to the trailer as this would compromise the design, nor drill into the chassis to fit mountings, which is naughty. I can't remember the last time I saw a load secured by ropes, apart from myself. I could buy straps fitted with D rings, but then I couldn't use them to fit in the cut outs. Having two sets of straps seems a bit excessive for the use the trailer gets. The DoT manual also recommends not using a ratchet mechanism on a rope hook as they are not designed to take the strain. For the cost of a few pounds on a several thousand pound trailer, why can't manufacturers fit rings all round as standard ?

Can you not hook the straps into the deck before loading bales?

Paddington · Jul 21, 2023

Dave W said:
Can you not hook the straps into the deck before loading bales?

Did think about this, the ratchet end of the straps I have will foul the headboard or tailboard, b***er !

Cowabunga · Jul 21, 2023

I don’t see the logic of not using ratchet straps on rope hooks. The strain on the hooks is directly proportional to how tight the straps are pulled. Leave them reasonably tight as a rope would be and there’s no difference to a rope. I’ve yet to see any rope hook or strap hook fail on my trailers when used with ratchet straps and in an emergency there would be no more strain on the hooks whether straps or ropes are attached. The hooks are inert and just don’t care what is pulling on them.

Bobthebuilder · Jul 21, 2023

Make sure your strap hooks are welded together then there’s no reason they can’t be used on the hooks

L P · Jul 21, 2023

Couple of axle clamps on drawbar A frame to hook to? Cross straps over to existing hooks at the back... no drilling or welding

David. · Jul 21, 2023

Is there anywhere you can drill 30mm holes to hook into without weakening the frame, much better than rope hooks. You aren't supposed to strap to rope hooks because if the strap slacks off in travel, it can fall off the hook. It won't fall out of a hole.

Jd Everytime · Jul 22, 2023

The Hudson trailers have 6 ratchet points on the trailer bed, perfect you can tie down loads without taking sides off. There is also hole cut outs down side of trailer below tge sides on the side rail for strapping too. And rope hooks. Well pleased with it.

Courier · Jul 22, 2023

David. said:
Is there anywhere you can drill 30mm holes to hook into without weakening the frame, much better than rope hooks. You aren't supposed to strap to rope hooks because if the strap slacks off in travel, it can fall off the hook. It won't fall out of a hole.

Always a good idea to make sure that the strap goes around the ratchet spindle a couple of times before taking the strain - makes it far less likely to slacken off.

David. · Jul 23, 2023

It's usually load settlement that slacks straps.

grainboy · Jul 23, 2023

Exactly the reason I wouldn’t buy a Brian James,
Pointing this out to them at the factory, but they weren’t interested,

grainboy · Jul 23, 2023

Bateson have strap hook holes

Tha Ulsterscot · Jul 23, 2023

Use shackles on the end of the straps, Simples

clbarclay · Jul 25, 2023

Depending what you are doing, having plenty of good anchor points both on the bed and on the sides would be very useful. The sides normal live on the flat bed here, but they have to come off whenever carrying something like a car or machine than doesn't fill the trailer against the sides.

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