The Trump 'monster'.

yoki

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Very interesting take on the ongoing Trump saga and how all those involved are ramping up the stakes to dangerously high levels without seemingly getting any closer to achieving their goals.

 
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Danllan

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Very interesting take on the ongoing Trump saga and how all those involved are ramping up the stakes to dangerously high levels without seemingly getting any closer to achieving their goals.

Trump is a receipted arsehole; he only got three things right in his whole presidency, confronting China in the South Seas, ensuring that no subject was not up for public discussion and being open about the ineptitude of government - for an irony.

Everything else he did was dreadful,, daft, dangerous, disruptive, destructive, divisive and, probably, many other things that start with 'd' that I can't think of at the moment. 😐

It is hard to credit that he will be re-elected.
 

yoki

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Trump as a person, or even President of the US, is not the issue here. That's why the article is interesting as for once it makes little or no attempt to judge either him or his presidency.

It is the lengths that his opponents are going to in an effort to defeat him which is being examined here.

The 2024 Presidential battle has effectively commenced and the stakes this time are potentially much higher than a single presidential term.
 
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tractorsandcows

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Livestock Farmer
Trump is a receipted arsehole; he only got three things right in his whole presidency, confronting China in the South Seas, ensuring that no subject was not up for public discussion and being open about the ineptitude of government - for an irony.

Everything else he did was dreadful,, daft, dangerous, disruptive, destructive, divisive and, probably, many other things that start with 'd' that I can't think of at the moment. 😐

It is hard to credit that he will be re-elected.
Re your second paragraph Would the "d" word you are looking for be "donaldic"
 

caveman

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Trump is a receipted arsehole; he only got three things right in his whole presidency, confronting China in the South Seas, ensuring that no subject was not up for public discussion and being open about the ineptitude of government - for an irony.

Everything else he did was dreadful,, daft, dangerous, disruptive, destructive, divisive and, probably, many other things that start with 'd' that I can't think of at the moment. 😐

It is hard to credit that he will be re-elected.
What are all these "d things" he did?
 
Very interesting take on the ongoing Trump saga and how all those involved are ramping up the stakes to dangerously high levels without seemingly getting any closer to achieving their goals.

Quite honestly the real world couldn't give a fück about Trump and the ongoing shît show by the Democrats and the media.
Its an unecessary distraction from the reality of the current Biden/Harris/Democrat party f**k up.
Not even going to mention the Libtard north of the border either...
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
Quite honestly the real world couldn't give a fück about Trump and the ongoing shît show by the Democrats and the media.
Its an unecessary distraction from the reality of the current Biden/Harris/Democrat party f**k up.
Not even going to mention the Libtard north of the border either...
IMO Biden is doing OK for an elderly man and that is Democrats biggest problem, will he stay alive and in good health. Trump is little more than a narcissistic man-child.
 

kiwi pom

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Americans are good people it’s a shame the country is run by lunatics.
This time it seems to be between someone barely clinging to life, someone who could be in jail at election time and a anti vax, conspiracy theory nut job, who is famous because his uncle had the top job once.
Think how great the country could be if those in charge actually cared about the people.
 

robs1

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Americans are good people it’s a shame the country is run by lunatics.
This time it seems to be between someone barely clinging to life, someone who could be in jail at election time and a anti vax, conspiracy theory nut job, who is famous because his uncle had the top job once.
Think how great the country could be if those in charge actually cared about the people.
Most countries are in the same position, perhaps they always have been, politicians have usually come from the elite, in the UK most labour leaders have been Oxbridge educated, hardly working class, in the states even those on the left are mega rich, money wins their elections, world leaders these days rarely care about their population
 

essex man

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colchester
Americans are good people it’s a shame the country is run by lunatics.
This time it seems to be between someone barely clinging to life, someone who could be in jail at election time and a anti vax, conspiracy theory nut job, who is famous because his uncle had the top job once.
Think how great the country could be if those in charge actually cared about the people.
If you care about your voters you will do what is good for them, rather than what they want, then you will be voted out.
 

yoki

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Quite honestly the real world couldn't give a fück about Trump and the ongoing shît show by the Democrats and the media.
Well they should.

Be in no doubt this is about the presidency, unless he can be stopped beforehand Trump is going to get the Republican nomination at a canter and then it's game on.

And like it or not, we are all hugely affected either negatively or positively by what's happening in the US, probably moreso even than our own national governments.
 

essex man

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Location
colchester
Quite honestly the real world couldn't give a fück about Trump and the ongoing shît show by the Democrats and the media.
Its an unecessary distraction from the reality of the current Biden/Harris/Democrat party f**k up.
Not even going to mention the Libtard north of the border either...
Yes, people are conditioned into thinking this stuff actually affects them.
It's just technology preying on their evolved instinct to look out for threats from neighbouring tribes.
 
Well they should.

Be in no doubt this is about the presidency, unless he can be stopped beforehand Trump is going to get the Republican nomination at a canter and then it's game on.

And like it or not, we are all hugely affected either negatively or positively by what's happening in the US, probably moreso even than our own national governments.
You've missed the point, you can criticise Trump past and future but you also have to look at the current shît show with Biden & Coand then the Hunter fiasco.
As I've said repeatedly none of the candidates selected by the Republicans or the Democrats parties for the last two elections for President were fit for the position and the next election isn't looking to be any different.
Equally US presidents interfering in other countries politics has been happening for decades and well before Trump.
The people of the US deserve better than nutters like Trump but equally deserve better than senile Biden and the stupidity of Harris.
 

yoki

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You've missed the point, you can criticise Trump past and future but you also have to look at the current shît show with Biden & Coand then the Hunter fiasco.
As I've said repeatedly none of the candidates selected by the Republicans or the Democrats parties for the last two elections for President were fit for the position and the next election isn't looking to be any different.
Equally US presidents interfering in other countries politics has been happening for decades and well before Trump.
The people of the US deserve better than nutters like Trump but equally deserve better than senile Biden and the stupidity of Harris.
FWIW, I'd love to see Trump back in the White House for a variety of reasons.

However, as I said in my second post, the article was interesting as it made no attempt to judge either Trump or his presidency and I'd like the comments to follow that lead as much as possible.

This is about the lengths that those currently in power are going to in an effort to thwart what they see (probably quite correctly) as the greatest threat to them holding on to that power.

Dare I say, it's like something you'd expect Putin to be at.
 

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