That’s if we all go mixed farming which I can’t really see.
labour planning to scrap agricultural property relief
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lloyd
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Your biggest advantage is Camgrain.
A lot of smaller diversified farmers could easily compete
for large tracts of contract farmed land if they could get their
hands on relatively cheap grain storage and drying.
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farmerm
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Mixed farming? Mixed farming is cereals, pulses and legumes… “they” do not want farming to including livestock in the mix!
serf
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Not unless development land solar land ect comes down pro rata , else all will happen is the rollover money will just buy more acres ....
glasshouse
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“They” dont know their arse from their elbow
That already happens.
My point was land values falling will make no difference to competition to access to land to farm (not the same as land ownership)
glasshouse
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Nonsense
Cheaper land will be bought to farm rather than rack rented on the pass the parcel method currently employed.
This policy would lose labour the election if the media do some sums, ignoring the effect on farms for a moment as we are a tiny percentage of voters but there are according to the commons library 4.8 MILLION family owned businesses in the UK employing nearly 14 million people, that's over half the private employment in the UK, every single one of those people would vote anything but labour add, their spouses etc and labour would get routed at the polls. Not one business owner would bother to invest for the future etc. If this is the thoughts that the best brains in labour can produce god help us. Sunak must have nearly died laughing.
Who will buy the land? The people with a growth and expansion mindset or those who havnt grown for years? It won’t make any difference, it’s a mindset/human nature thing in a capitalist society. You will still be moaning about the same people taking up all the land.
lloyd
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- Herefordshire
What a poor choice for farming between political parties. 
2wheels
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I was thinking it might encourage more folks to go into lower paid work rather than claim credits. I know there is a hardcore who will never work but get some working and the next generation might follow their example.
farmerm
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- Shropshire
It’s a poor choice indeed, though still better that the one Americans will have to make!What a poor choice for farming between political parties.
It would be nice to have a few people from the local villages back on our estate keeping it real rather than the 12m horsch direct drill plus a load of pointless winter salads to mulch back in as K nitro suppliment? equally the contractors do the work for tiny margins so maybe not so bad?
glasshouse
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Yawn
BPR also a potential target. Will it aid "leveling up or cause the demise of small family business?
Will there be the incentive to build a business if you can't pass it on, would it still be worth the hard work & worry if the government would force your business to be sold if you suddenly passed away, somehow I doubt it.
That’s just reality. The only way you can stop the ambitious expansion minded people is by changing the law to say no one is allowed to farm more than 500 acres.
The people around here who have capitalised on contract farming for the last 30 years, are the ones if it ceases to be a means of farming who will take the risk to borrow or stump up the cash to rent or buy the farms, like they have already been doing for years by taking risks expanding into contract farming.
Your dream will not happen unless there’s a huge change in the law and the whole food system.
glasshouse
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Subsidies capped at £50,000 would be a start.
Farm houses designated for farmers only would also help
subsidies have gone.
do you mean make it illegal for anyone other than a farmer to live in a ”farm house”?
glasshouse
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Subsidies have not gone in scotland