Confessions of the Sheep/Beef Cattle/Pig Addicts

Hfd Cattle

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Half a day late posting but me too:

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Cattle off field yesterday morning, slurried in afternoon, mucked today. Gates closed for first cut. No sheeps welcome!
And I was
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Stw88

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Location
Northumberland
If you lowland fellas want store and breeding stock to keep coming out of the hills you're gonna have to send a bit more money our way. Folk think mule lambs have been a good trade but they're a joke really, we've averaged this year the same as we did in 2012, people have short memories and think if they're a couple of quid up on last year they've done well, you fellas are selling culls for the price you're giving us for a replacement anyone buying swale yows needs at least 3 culls to buy a replacement, bps is whats keeping us going in the hills and when we're all gone there's no store and breeding stock for you fellas
Once over ewe lambs were 20-30£ ahead of the fat. Plenty mule wethers 115-128 at carlisle on Monday In the fat. Them good tuppable ewe lambs at 120-140 are cheap. Especially compared to the little runners at these last couple of sales.
 

Gedd

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Livestock Farmer
No it’s nighttime robbery. The enchanted forest is a visual and musical walk through the woods un the dark up at Pitlochry. Did it with the kids years ago. Very good but like all these things way overpriced 🤷‍♂️
Thats the difference between them and us they set a price everyone twists but pay it we sell below cost of production and its us that twist as well as them as they think food is expensive
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Thats the difference between them and us they set a price everyone twists but pay it we sell below cost of production and its us that twist as well as them as they think food is expensive
You're not producing food. You're producing a globally traded commodity that someone else buys and processes into food. Then someone else retails.

If you want to set your price become the processor and retailer.
 
Thats the difference between them and us they set a price everyone twists but pay it we sell below cost of production and its us that twist as well as them as they think food is expensive
All those years where lambs were £60 in the fat and £35 in the stores have still got us held back
Think that went on for 10/15 years or something
Now we are on the dizzy heights of 265p and think it’s great admittedly those lambs are making more in the fat and the store but that’s due to them paying for the heavy lambs now which they weren’t a few years ago. A lot of folks forget that bit. They are paying for meat they usually stole over 42’s
 
Can’t say I noticed any from the buyers side of the ring? Plenty of runners in the 110’s. The later sales definitely been dearer than the first draws I thought
I was thinking more of the producers. Top pens needed to buy drafts, rest not worth the hassle over killing price. I’ve heard of more than one putting Texel tups out with Swales this time
 

ringi

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If you lowland fellas want store and breeding stock to keep coming out of the hills you're gonna have to send a bit more money our way. Folk think mule lambs have been a good trade but they're a joke really, we've averaged this year the same as we did in 2012,

Due to increase in Iceberg Diseases and them spreading between ewes with indoor lambing the lifetime of mules on many lowland farms is significantly shorter then ewes on high health status fully closed flocks. This must be having an effect on demand for mules.

It only needs a single infected mule to introduce the problem, and the mixing of mules when they are sold/transported along with a sales process that normally results in a lowland farm having mules that come from many upland farms don't help.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Due to increase in Iceberg Diseases and them spreading between ewes with indoor lambing the lifetime of mules on many lowland farms is significantly shorter then ewes on high health status fully closed flocks. This must be having an effect on demand for mules.

It only needs a single infected mule to introduce the problem, and the mixing of mules when they are sold/transported along with a sales process that normally results in a lowland farm having mules that come from many upland farms don't help.

You'll be upsetting folk talking like that. We have to keep our heads in the sand about such things and pretend it's someone else's problem. :whistle:
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
I was thinking more of the producers. Top pens needed to buy drafts, rest not worth the hassle over killing price. I’ve heard of more than one putting Texel tups out with Swales this time
Might be talking out of turn here, but why don’t more people shear their running lambs a month pre sale? Richard Hargreaves’s proved it didn’t make any difference to trade as a hell of a lot of them get sheared anyway. Ridley’s tried a pen at Hexham second sale and they made well over what was expected. Lot cheaper to shear them than dress them? Just dress the tupping lambs?
 

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