Minette Batters NFU president

Andy Nash · Oct 25, 2023

ajd132 said:
I heard Tom B was off twitter last week because of the heat.

saying he didn’t know about it GFC, then saying he did, then saying he fought hard against it, then saying he voted it through.

to question the strategic ability of these people and organisation is not out of order. Neither is to question to their motives to be honest.

they are putting out such a confusing and convoluted message it looks like a bunch of children being absolutely played, not knowing what to do, with people on the background telling them different things and using them.
It’s absolutely hopless.

as for Minette batters ‘10 years of my life’ comment, have some bloody respect for the farmers your supposed to represent.

I thought you were supposed to say that “I had the honour of serving” rather than 10 years out of my life.
Oh well, she’s only got to wait til February when the directorship offers start coming in and the call from the palace that all ex Presidents get.

Tarw Coch · Oct 25, 2023

Andy Nash said:
I thought you were supposed to say that “I had the honour of serving” rather than 10 years out of my life.
Oh well, she’s only got to wait til February when the directorship offers start coming in and the call from the palace that all ex Presidents get.

The call from the palace ?……………..ohh yes, an honour for services to the cartel

Andy Nash · Oct 25, 2023

Tarw Coch said:
The call from the palace ?……………..ohh yes, an honour for services to the cartel

You old cynic, it’s for ‘securing market access for British farmers around the world’.. My arse.

tullah · Oct 25, 2023

Bury the Trash said:
the best way to stop them is to stop funding them .

Yes it is and the only way to stop funding a protection racket is for a mass exodus.
The ones and twos leaving get hurt by these bullies.
With enough members we can win this and dispose of the dead tractor in one fell swoop.
No more ticking off pointless paperwork and the stress of pointless annual visits worrying if bully Red Tractor will stop you selling your crops you have in store and bankrupting you. JOIN THE BFU NOW.

agricontract · Oct 25, 2023

Love how everyone thinks I’m the only farmer who can’t spell
Who ever did should have monetised it on YouTube the times I had it sent to me they could have bought a axle flow

tullah · Oct 25, 2023

Jackov Altraids said:
I don't care much for this argument of RT saying the NFU is an owner and the NFU saying they are not.
The question for Minette is;
Do you have the will and the ability to change RT?

If yes, then you are responsible for this mess. P45.

If you have the ability but not the will, stand aside for someone who has.

If you have the will but not the ability, set up an alternative scheme that does what we want.

If she hasn't the will or ability, P45.

Surely the alternative scheme should be equal to imports which have no certification at all.
Pointless us busting a gut to tickbox an inspection when all imports get tipped into the so called assured heap and sold on with an RT label to the unsuspecting public.
Shows how utterly pointless RT or even an alternative scheme is.

Grass And Grain · Oct 25, 2023

Andy Nash said:
I’m not sure that the current leadership of the NFU is any more tolerant of dissent than you’re suggesting Handley is or would be if he were president of the nfu. It is said that the council were forbidden from even speaking about their recent meeting and the events surrounding it. That is the elected governing body.
Also I don’t think Handley would have sold the nfu out to corporate interests; I appreciate that probably doesn’t concern you overly, but it does to a lot of others.

As for the idea of guarding against populism, the parliamentary system failed to keep Boris Johnson out of power.
Ken Clarke famously said that he couldn’t run a whelk stall and a lot of the Conservative Party felt the same, but elected him anyway, because he could win an election. Populism is just a phase which will die out.

Council forbidden from discussing the meeting smacks of controlling behaviour.

What's the betting this Red Tractor review becomes a sham and concluded "the benefits of having a single assurance scheme, giving farmers access to all markers, outweighs the negatives"

Ooo the irony of RT is mind boggling. They repeatedly shout about how their scheme means access to all markers. The same markets which we had free access to before RT came along.

andybk · Oct 25, 2023

Grass And Grain said:
Council forbidden from discussing the meeting smacks of controlling behaviour.

What's the betting this Red Tractor review becomes a sham and concluded "the benefits of having a single assurance scheme, giving farmers access to all markers, outweighs the negatives"

Ooo the irony of RT is mind boggling. They repeatedly shout about how their scheme means access to all markers. The same markets which we had free access to before RT came along.

Our the realisation they have been "played" by the supermarkets !

ajd132 · Oct 25, 2023

Minettes two biggest mistakes, red tractor and the 10 year early net zero pledge affect all farmers not just NFU members.

Spencer · Oct 25, 2023

ajd132 said:
the 10 year early net zero pledge affect all farmers not just NFU members.

That just made zero sense to any farmer.., why on gods earth did she do that?

ajd132 · Oct 25, 2023

Spencer said:
That just made zero sense to any farmer.., why on gods earth did she do that?

I have no idea. Was it those in the background of the NFU?
What happens when/of uk agriculture doesn’t hit net zero early? We look like a bunch of idiots.

SilliamWhale · Oct 25, 2023

Spencer said:
That just made zero sense to any farmer.., why on gods earth did she do that?

More moral than the rest of us? It's not going to happen anyway. But was it voted for by council? Were members canvassed? What about non members?

As I keep saying if the NFU love RT they can set their own scheme up for NFU members and leave the rest of us alone, but do not work at destroying our marketplace

Is it any wonder by the proles are rebelling? It's ridiculous policy

Tarw Coch · Oct 25, 2023

ajd132 said:
I have no idea. Was it those in the background of the NFU?
What happens when/of uk agriculture doesn’t hit net zero early? We look like a bunch of idiots.

You’re almost certainly right…….. but why “we” ?
“We” didn’t make this pledge, she did, a technicality that will be brushed under the carpet that she won’t want to be held accountable for

fudge · Oct 25, 2023

Clive said:
criticism is not bullying - i’ve seen nothing but perfectly legitimate questions and posts pointing out some rather shocking facts / conflicts of interest throughout this entire debate

There is bullying contained in this thread. Comments about salaries/saving own skin is about personal abuse rather than challenging wrong headed ideas. Quite a number of people on this forum are childishly good at handing out insults but in turn can’t take them. You yourself advocate the selling of carbon credits etc which is part of the whole net zero lie. That lie is at the heart of what is wrong with NFU policy. Let’s be clear about what net zero is, it’s an idea which allows big corporations to continue to use fossil fuel at the expense of the rest of us and the environment. In uk ag we are seeing productive capacity being exported on these various offsetting arrangements. Your support for these policies, as seen in your embracing of carbon trading is just as wrong headed as the NFU policy.

spin cycle · Oct 25, 2023

Spencer said:
That just made zero sense to any farmer.., why on gods earth did she do that?

mispent notion about her 'legacy'...so vanity really

Vader · Oct 25, 2023

Spencer said:
That just made zero sense to any farmer.., why on gods earth did she do that?

The agenda and the greasy pole..

stroller · Oct 25, 2023

yellowbelly said:
FFS
Not being a NFU member, I'd no idea that they'd a food trade bloke as Director General - WTF were they thinking about to appoint him?

The supermarkets have got their own bloke on the inside - no wonder farming always comes off second best

A leg up on the nfu greasy pole and lucrative jobs post nfu?

J 1177 · Oct 25, 2023

fudge said:
There is bullying contained in this thread. Comments about salaries/saving own skin is about personal abuse rather than challenging wrong headed ideas. Quite a number of people on this forum are childishly good at handing out insults but in turn can’t take them. You yourself advocate the selling of carbon credits etc which is part of the whole net zero lie. That lie is at the heart of what is wrong with NFU policy. Let’s be clear about what net zero is, it’s an idea which allows big corporations to continue to use fossil fuel at the expense of the rest of us and the environment. In uk ag we are seeing productive capacity being exported on these various offsetting arrangements. Your support for these policies, as seen in your embracing of carbon trading is just as wrong headed as the NFU policy.

rubbish, if that interview is not minette trying to save her own skin i dunno what is. Thats not abuse its the blatant truth.

fudge · Oct 25, 2023

J 1177 said:
rubbish, if that interview is not minette trying to save her own skin i dunno what is. Thats not abuse its the blatant truth.

It’s not rubbish there is bullying in this thread. Pointless and childish.

J 1177 · Oct 25, 2023

fudge said:
It’s not rubbish there is bullying in this thread. Pointless and childish.

What bullying?? calling her out for her lies and gaslighting of uk farmers??
Its the tyipcal nfu line to accuse anyone that dissents of bullying its almost like theres a nfu order of service of how to deal with those pesky farmers.

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