That’s fair enough but beggars can’t be choosers. Obviously I know to a ‘proper’ farmer it sounds crazy but I have a well paid job and have to start somewhere
How much do you pay?!
- Thread starter RyanI
- Start date
lloyd
Member
- Location
- Herefordshire
I dont think he meant any harm £200 acre for the year would be maximum
rent for pasture(sheep) so your probably paying at least double.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
For £200/ac grazing land I’d be wanting to claim sub too - at £150/ac. I certainly wouldn’t be doing any repairs and upkeep.
- Location
- Devon
I didn't think he was trying to be disrespectful, just straight.
But a quick sum shows that £200/ month is not sustainable.
You have asked a tricky question. There are a near infinite amount of variables such that some might actually get paid to graze their sheep while others might may pay £100's per month, but for forage crops over winter.
They're bending you over without vaseline at that rental cost. So they provide the material for a fence- they're still saving £3/metre by getting you to erect Vs contractor perfect square 4ac field perimeter is 440m or £1320.
It's great you have a separate job that pays for your sheep hobby but when you start expanding you can't pay the same rate, and if you did, don't expect any help off other local farmers who you've priced out of any rental ground
It's great you have a separate job that pays for your sheep hobby but when you start expanding you can't pay the same rate, and if you did, don't expect any help off other local farmers who you've priced out of any rental ground
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
This is it. By paying that much the OP is making a rod for their own back (landlords might talk, and all deserve to be treated roughly equally) and ruining the opportunities for any other new starters who might follow him.
To me I asked a simple enough question, the fact you’re saying it was tricky is because I have little to no experience renting land, hence why I asked the question. Just trying to learn
One reason I’ve asked the question is because when I do try an expand I have an idea what to be paying. The landlord now, has nothing to do with farming or agriculture in fact. Just a local guy with a couple of fields. I took it at the price because getting into sheep is something I’ve always wanted to do and for someone who isn’t fortunate enough to be born into it I took what I could. This is the first patch of land (not to be mopped up by farmers) I’ve seen in a lot of years in my local area.
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
Those figures are borderline repayment figures for buying the land, not renting it. £150/year per acre is high price for sheep ground in most cases.
- Location
- Devon
I hope you find some help in the replies.
But it would be the same if I went on a 'petrolhead' forum and asked how much I should be paying a month for renting a car.
The obvious starting point would be what car do I need and what do I want to do with it.
In your case, it would consist of enjoying doing a few miles, in a classic.
What is you ultimate aim?
Would you like to be a shepherd, smallholder or show sheep?
- Location
- North of Perth
It's simple mate your paying way too much.£100/acre for grazing sheep is enough.an at that it needs to be fully fenced,water an I'd probably want to claim the sub too.
Sounds ridiculous, but ultimately would love to run a few hundred, enough where I could reduce my hours where I am now. Realistically will never happen so any form of working with sheep I’ll be happy.
- Location
- Ceredigion
To answer your question, a very good price would be £200 acre yesr ,if I was renting out. , the dearest I've heard of around here is £190 acre year
Cheers for that
I don’t see how the OP is ruining the opportunities for new starters? Sounds like the land owner has stated a price and they’re paying it because, as they’ve said, they don’t know price of things.
- Location
- Devon
You would be better off chatting to a few local sheep farmers.
You would be better off working for nothing for them a few hours a week and then they could give you priceless advice and know of opportunities for you.
I admire your ambition but fear you'll run out of motivation and/ or money as you are at the moment.
lloyd
Member
- Location
- Herefordshire
Have you thought about approaching a large local sheepCheers for that
farm to gain extra experience? It might be time well spent if
you are thinking of keeping a few hundred in the future.
Aye, going to help out lambing in January ready for mine in April
Cheers for that, I’m going to help couple of locals lamb in January. Also going for a day in the dales on a course. Probably sounds stupid to a farmer but you have to start somewhere eh
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Could you show me some figures that show any kind of income from renting ground at £190/ac for farming sheep?
@RyanI , for balance, I was offered a small parcel of adjoining land by my landlord 2 years ago. It was about 6ac, fenced into 5 paddocks, which I could have opened the gate to graze.
He asked for £100/ac, I laughed for a ridiculously long time, then offered him half that, purely to keep other people’s (potentially scabby) sheep away.
Needless to say, some other daft bugger (the land hungry neighbour on the other side) has taken it anyway. Good luck to him and his vanity, he sure as hell isn’t making any profit from it.