Devil's advocate
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Any examples of buy one get nine free.
How to stop the give away veg.
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- Montgomeryshire
Is it France that has it set in law that produce can’t be sold below COP?
No doubt farmers over here would complain that the govt had compiled information on their COP to be able to enforce it though.
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Now you have changed your tack, first it was putting small businesses at risk, and nowcits selling too cheap, lower than the cost of buying it in,
And your complaining about it,
You want an example, well here is one for you,
Farmer A made round bale silage, yet sold it to farmer B for £15 a bale, that's below the cost of production,
Farmer B also buys straw in the swath off Farmer C, for a price less than the value of it to incorporate back into the soil.
Now if farmers carry on like that, how the hell is it farmers can call someone else in other businesses for doing this,
As for your small shops suffering, how comes there is half the farms than there was 30 years ago, I will explain to you as you seem to miss this bit, in a lot of cases the farm next door bought it all, kept the land and sold the house and buildings off,
Or moving on in recent years, they lot it up to max the value, and non farmers buy the house, buildings and a couple of acres of land, next door farmer's buy the ground to put to there own,
It's all custom driven, what ever line of business your in, that's why the weak fall by the wayside, the strong get bigger,
To be quite honest I am, along with others, are getting sick of the likes of tesco are running the job and keeping prices down, what a load of b0llocks, the ones keeping the prices down are your so called friends on here, by producing more and more, having said that there probably not on here as too busy producing more and getting bigger, it's the moaners that are on here doing a lot less,
There is still stock feed carrots available, so carrots are not that short, perhaps the supermarket is doing you a favour by selling them cheap at more of a value of stockfeed,
As for wanting a cheap John deer, why not go the the local steel stockholder and buy the raw materials and some pain,
Devil's advocate
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I think green grocers have had a much higher attrition rate than farmers. Without subs, paid off a tenancy or any building land to sell.
My 40 years in the business, I've seen so many go.
Devil's advocate
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I would not go quite so far.Is it France that has it set in law that produce can’t be sold below COP?
No doubt farmers over here would complain that the govt had compiled information on their COP to be able to enforce it though.
But planned selling at less than purchase price should be banned.
76masseyman
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Seen several fields today on my travels of partly harvested crops of carrots and potatoes. A mate has been to a place where the machine lifting the parsnips is really struggling, all due to the extreme weather.
You would think this would be the year when veg price has skyrocketed, but then the same mate rang to say that Tesco broccoli, bought with a club card was 15p a head tonight.
You would think this would be the year when veg price has skyrocketed, but then the same mate rang to say that Tesco broccoli, bought with a club card was 15p a head tonight.
As should selling veg grown by slave labour.
https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/foo...ms in,labour, sexual assault and intimidation.
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I'd love to see one big producer fail to supply veg to Tesco this week. Obviously they'd be subject to fines, lose their contract and never supply Tesco again so would be commercial suicide but it would be great to see Tesco with empty veg isles the week leading up Christmas. Not supplying their customers with under prices veg.
kiwi pom
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It's a hard no from me on the organic stuff but a decent, reliable service would be a good thing round here too.
My only question is are these businesses growing all their own produce locally or just using a wholesaler and breaking them down to individual orders?
Think cauliflower got up to $9 each not long ago, and broccoli $3 for a small head (halve it for pounds). Tomatoes are too dear unless in season so don't buy them, much of the veg I buy is frozen these days to be honest.
I'm a townie but do have a veg patch of my own for some stuff.
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When were you last in a Tesco store? There’s already heaps of empty space, far fewer fresh fruit and veg lines than before. Shortages are being disguised by wider aisles, single stacked boxes etc. right across the store.
kiwi pom
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That's the thing though, if a grower has a contract and doesn't supply its bye bye grower (although they could still do something with their land). It's the same for supermarkets too, if they don't perform they go out of business and completely disappear (unlike a farm) I know most folk on here would love to see Tesco go broke, but it wouldn't change much if they did, someone else would take over. It's just the way it all works and I don't think there's much enthusiasm to change it.
tullah
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It'll change it when the infrastructure has a hiccup, as it surely will.
It's a matter of when and not if.
kiwi pom
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Maybe it will but I'm not sure how people in general and farmers in particular actually want it to change?
Devil's advocate
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Very true.
One example was caulie at my local Tesco.
The correct price for Caulie this week is £2.50 to £3.50 per head without frost damage.
Tesco had 6 half rotten tiny caulies 95p each to match Aldi, that was on an almost empty shelf.
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Only if Tesco could find another supplier, which is becoming an issue for them.
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I'm told the broccoli head sizes are quite small, so say 250 to 300g.
The correct price for broccoli this week is £14 for 6kg
So a 330g head should be about 80p, Tesco will be paying about that. They are out bidding others in European countries to secure supplies to give away. Broccoli is almost always Spanish at this time of the year.
I'm trying to put this in farming terms.
Its a bit like a sheep dealer going to Ireland paying 180 euros for lambs, then parking up outside Carlilse auction market & offering them to butchers at £20 each.
We like to support the local veg shop so why would we order from away ?
No shortage there he has to put some outside.
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I agree, but you can’t police that without establishing a COP as a reference figure.
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That's great.
But there is a shortage every buyer is rushing round to secure supplies.
But for once capitalism is not quite working, it needs some rules & a impartial regulator with teeth. Not the supermarket bred puppy we have that likes her tummy tickling.