Silage / Straw / Hay Price Tracker

livestock 1 · Dec 26, 2023

Over the years we’ve made a lot of hay off ground that’s been fed hard and it’s always a concern because it’s too lively
Round bales baled tight with that type of grass/hay seem to be least able to heat out
Usually leave them out at least a fortnight

Derrick Hughes · Dec 26, 2023

If the hay is 100 % fit then bailing tight won't effect its keeping quality, but it's a job to get Ryegrass Hay 100 % fit
I prefer bales that are slightly less compart so the hay can breath a little

Skintagain · Dec 26, 2023

thorpe said:
bleached stick's wont warm cus it's got nowt in it! better off feeding straw and cake.

That’s what I was getting at

harperfarmer · Dec 26, 2023

Drive up and down the spine of the country and have a look at the state of the arable. Ourselves included. Doesn't take much to see that straw will be like gold dust next year so people are probably trying to get ahead. We will be approx 30% down on what we need for starters.

bobk · Dec 26, 2023

harperfarmer said:
Drive up and down the spine of the country and have a look at the state of the arable. Ourselves included. Doesn't take much to see that straw will be like gold dust next year so people are probably trying to get ahead. We will be approx 30% down on what we need for starters.

I'm only growing sb for the straw , otherwise wouldn't bother

Devil's advocate · Dec 26, 2023

Derrick Hughes said:
As for straw
To give a farmer a fair price and cover the cost of haulage to the West Coast just makes it to expensive, especially when you have to drive over to the east to get it when it's short in the middle lands
But when it is overpriced, it just kills a bit more off the trade that never comes back.
But then sellers will just say, it's payback for when it was to cheap
Yes I know, shoot the middle man , but then what's a middle man , all I do is find loads for my mates trucks that would otherwise run empty, suppling countless small farms who pay no more for one big bale over my weighbridge that someone who takes 50

Hope you all have a Merry Christmas
Including the farmer who knocked on my door at 12.30 on Chistmas day asking for a 100 small bales of straw to be loaded

Derrick should have a knighthood long over due.

Northeastfarmer · Dec 26, 2023

bobk said:
I'm only growing sb for the straw , otherwise wouldn't bother

I’ll happily take the barley off your hands for free then

thorpe · Dec 26, 2023

harperfarmer said:
Drive up and down the spine of the country and have a look at the state of the arable. Ourselves included. Doesn't take much to see that straw will be like gold dust next year so people are probably trying to get ahead. We will be approx 30% down on what we need for starters.

glad somone else has realised the situation!

Derrick Hughes · Dec 26, 2023

harperfarmer said:
Drive up and down the spine of the country and have a look at the state of the arable. Ourselves included. Doesn't take much to see that straw will be like gold dust next year so people are probably trying to get ahead. We will be approx 30% down on what we need for starters.

I was thinking how well crops looked, Cotswolds And Sussex
Did you have your sellers glasses on

But you can set your clocks as night follows day , after a dear year a cheap year will follow , that's how its always been

thorpe · Dec 26, 2023

Derrick Hughes said:
I was thinking how well crops looked, Cotswolds And Sussex

get about a bit more , try leices, nott's, linc's york's disaster zone for many!

lloyd · Dec 26, 2023

Derrick Hughes said:
I was thinking how well crops looked, Cotswolds And Sussex
Did you have your sellers glasses on
But you can set your clocks as night follows day , after a dear year a cheap year will follow , that's how its always

Large parts of the Cotswolds is stoney brash so favourable to continued wet weather.

Sam Partridge · Dec 26, 2023

Derrick Hughes said:
I was thinking how well crops looked, Cotswolds And Sussex
Did you have your sellers glasses on
But you can set your clocks as night follows day , after a dear year a cheap year will follow , that's how its always been

There'll be a glut of wheat planted next autumn for sure to compensate but weather needs to play ball to get a big cro!. Seems to be one good growing season followed by one bad one in the last decade. Bad times if next autumn is wet again

Henarar · Dec 26, 2023

thorpe said:
glad somone else has realised the situation!

2012 was bad for planting but 2013 saw the best spring crops I have ever baled

harperfarmer · Dec 26, 2023

Derrick Hughes said:
I was thinking how well crops looked, Cotswolds And Sussex
Did you have your sellers glasses on
But you can set your clocks as night follows day , after a dear year a cheap year will follow , that's how its always been

As @thorpe has said. Get up and down the M1. Top to bottom its basically either unplanted and standing water, planted but so bad it'll be ripped up, or looks shite but will be persevered with due to lack of spring seed but will only yield half what it should. I drove from Driffield down to Warwickshire, so around 2.5/3 hrs, and reckon I saw two decent fields of early planted winter barley. Everything else. Shite.

Gordon Geko · Dec 26, 2023

Derrick Hughes said:
I was thinking how well crops looked, Cotswolds And Sussex
Did you have your sellers glasses on
But you can set your clocks as night follows day , after a dear year a cheap year will follow , that's how its always been

Try M62 Ferrybridge to Grimsby,less than 20% planted and that looks grim

aangus · Dec 26, 2023

Would it be better planting SB and the putting into over winter wild bird mix and so on

Chuckie · Dec 26, 2023

Henarar said:
2012 was bad for planting but 2013 saw the best spring crops I have ever baled

Yeah but this year there's no spring seed apparently

Northeastfarmer · Dec 26, 2023

Chuckie said:
Yeah but this year there's no spring seed apparently

I’m guessing that’s coming from the seller….

Derrick Hughes · Dec 26, 2023

thorpe said:
get about a bit more , try leices, nott's, linc's york's disaster zone for many!

I have had straw from up there for years ,to expensive,

thorpe · Dec 26, 2023

Derrick Hughes said:
I have had straw from up there for years ,to expensive,

doubt thered be any for you this year anyway, or next!

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