I did so sold. Hate the bloody things dusty and slow.
Should a dealer buy back a piece of machinery they sold you
- Thread starter Massey mad
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- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Speak to many dealers and most will tell you they don’t sell much without finance these days.
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Not everyone has oodles of dosh lying about, everyone's situation is different.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Apart from office work, what did she do on the farm? My wife helped with the office work as well as work for an average of four days a week as a supply teacher, mainly to one school. She was also a part time [still is] cattle diverter, turning them into fields. She gave up the teaching a good few years ago now and wonders how she ever found the time to do it all.
Stick it in auction or whatever site you use in England for selling, if it was on DoneDeal it’d be advertised for whatever you paid for it. But £10 big ones for a spread a bale, it’s mad what things cost now and no wonder you needed a drop of finance on it.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
What’s mad is not the price of new machinery but that farmers can often no longer buy such relatively minor pieces of kit out of petty cash. That is because our income is too low, not because kit is too expensive.
ollie989898
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Anyone would think you conduct business in a region of the world where underhand business dealings are common place?
More to the point who the heck has the time to bed animals down without the use of some kind of machinery?
So your partner is now going to be spread a bale !Life's to short use it and save your bodies !
ollie989898
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In this case it seems more to be a: 'wow the wife was keeping so fit bedding down by hand, I regret that spreader purchase now'.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
It surely says much about the trustworthiness or otherwise of people you deal with. Their moral integrity and honesty, or otherwise.Anyone would think you conduct business in a region of the world where underhand business dealings are common place?
I agree in principle but it depends on many things, mainly being the scale of operation and the logistics of the buildings. This thing is rather unwieldy to say the least, on the front of a loader or, more likely a telehandler.
Spreading straw can be a dirty and dusty business and even if the straw is in perfect condition it requires a lot of hand forking unless straw is abundant and dirt cheap, such as home grown to be recycled into manure. So a machine may be very justifiable.
Personally I’ve always been allergic to straw dust and my nose starts running and my facial skin comes out in hives straight away, so a sealed cab and a spreading machine of some kind would be a must. My brother spreads straw under the calves and in calving pens by hand but that isn’t all that much. A square bale lasts at least three days in the calving pens when only three or four calve per day.
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Most dealers are likely to be very reluctant to buy a machine into stock currently with how the market is. As already stated they would be tying up money in a machine that they have already sold from stock once.
It would be a lot easier to sell privately and also leave you in a better position financially. No dealer is going to offer you market value for the machine as it leaves no margin for themselves in the deal. Dependent on the amount financed, trying to sell into the trade may not even return the amount still outstanding after only a year unfortunately.
It would be a lot easier to sell privately and also leave you in a better position financially. No dealer is going to offer you market value for the machine as it leaves no margin for themselves in the deal. Dependent on the amount financed, trying to sell into the trade may not even return the amount still outstanding after only a year unfortunately.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
That is a possible issue. That the machine could well be in negative equity at this stage, depending on the deposit and the number of years financed over. To be plain, this means that once the machine is sold, the amount raised might not be enough to cover the finance debt owed. First port of call is to get a settlement figure from the finance company to find out what is outstanding. The cost to clear the debt.
marco
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- Location
- tipperary, ireland
Realistically a machine like this will last at least 10 to 15 years easily, making it reasonably cheap when the original cost is spread out over these years. If at all possible keep it and save your backs.
It could almost lead one to believe that shiny paint, and keeping on the dealers calendar list is a mugs game.
All very well saying keep it, but machine may well be not very suitable for OPs setup, but was a last resort purchase in a difficult set of circumstances...
All very well saying keep it, but machine may well be not very suitable for OPs setup, but was a last resort purchase in a difficult set of circumstances...
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ollie989898
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No one should be spreading straw and inhaling that stuff long term I'd say, if you do it long enough then you are bound to end up inhaling fungal spores and if you keep chancing your arm you're going to get farmers lung or similar and lung diseases are a one way process only.
The savings on time and straw lone surely pay for any such machine, plus properly spread straw is a lot easier when it comes to handling the manure later as you say.
lloyd
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- Location
- Herefordshire
As long as the buyer is allowed to settle the finance on your behalf and made aware
just advertise it privately.By the sound of it could be a desirable item.
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
She does the agronomy including preparing all the tank mixes and a lot of the labour management including wages and organizing the harvesting . There's 1000 acres of veg at any one time and 450 people. For the last four years we've passed our GlobalGAP audit with no non conformities. When we had cattle she did all the Vet work as she was a vet. I'm obviously the brains behind the operation but there probably wouldn't be much of an operation without her. Plus I quite like her an enjoy being with her.
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
I'm not saying don't pay for it. I'm saying there's ways of paying for it that may be unorthodox.Anyone would think you conduct business in a region of the world where underhand business dealings are common place?
More to the point who the heck has the time to bed animals down without the use of some kind of machinery?
She sounds like a mistress rather than a wife…