Clarkson again

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
Two actually. First was exempting tractors from tax dating from 1922 and the other was the fuel rebate. Both driven by the green faction of the coalition government.
The reaction of the farmers - with the support of well over 60% of the population - made them rescind the first and offer to phase in the latter over three years.

Neither are YET under threat here but then the greens have limited affect on policy (to date).
Amazing that we are all conned into talking about the fuel “rebate” as if we should be thankful.
Road diesel is taxed because its used on roads, thats why its called derv (diesel engine road vehicle).
Non road diesel has never been taxed until the great imbecile Crash Gordon slapped 13p on it in 2000 which led to the fuel protest.
Then in 2022 they took red deisel away from construction and industry which has resulted in massive inflation of many essential products. Now construction is collapsing.
Well done govt
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Amazing that we are all conned into talking about the fuel “rebate” as if we should be thankful.
Road diesel is taxed because its used on roads, thats why its called derv (diesel engine road vehicle).
Non road diesel has never been taxed until the great imbecile Crash Gordon slapped 13p on it in 2000 which led to the fuel protest.
Then in 2022 they took red deisel away from construction and industry which has resulted in massive inflation of many essential products. Now construction is collapsing.
Well done govt

Fuel to agriculture is rebated as a sop to us to keep food cheap as Clarkson points out.
He is bigly right that there is no way the supermarkets can sell at their prices without screwing the primary producers
Then again, no one will vote for higher food prices so we are screwed either way
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
Fuel to agriculture is rebated as a sop to us to keep food cheap as Clarkson points out.
He is bigly right that there is no way the supermarkets can sell at their prices without screwing the primary producers
Then again, no one will vote for higher food prices so we are screwed either way
Its not rebated.
Its never been full price so how can it be rebated?
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Fuel to agriculture is rebated as a sop to us to keep food cheap as Clarkson points out.
He is bigly right that there is no way the supermarkets can sell at their prices without screwing the primary producers
Then again, no one will vote for higher food prices so we are screwed either way
and even our so called guiding light :hilarious: the nfu 'council' top table what ever / by comment from their so called leader ( :hilarious: ) seem to think that we should produce cheap food . :banghead:
 

Raider112

Member
It was a couple of years ago iirc, but NFU lobbying saw a u turn. Obviously not allowed to post such things on here though, so mum’s the word.🤫
Lets not pretend they haven't done good things as they obviously have but they have taken their eyes massively off the ball lately in pursuit of God knows what.
The worrying thing is that they don't seem concerned that they are supporting things that they should be opposing with all their might.
 

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