Get Yer Toque On!

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
I think even if I moved somewhere with more moderate winters I’d still want a somewhat winterized set up.

Buried water. Draining pipes. Insulated buildings. Sure things wouldn’t need to be buried 8’ deep like here or insulated at highest R value or have the heat turned on all the time, but just the option and ability to be half way to cold weather location standards would be a huge benefit on the random cold days.
Been checking up again, this struck me as too sensible not to comment on.

Our setup here is like that to an extent, and it's beneficial all the time. Drinking water is still cool when it's 30+ and still works when it's cold.

We're having a sympathetic cool snap here next week, down to +3°C is hardly cold for winter but noticeable enough mid summer to be really grateful for a well insulated home and no "panic stations, we'd better cover the pumps" sort of crap.
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Guidance rather than a law but water pipes here are supposed to be buried at a minimum of 750 mm we aim for deeper than that to about900mm to keep it away from damage as much as anything.above ground frost protection is harder to do so often gets risked.


no windows to the W in ours mainly to avoid wind damage smaller windows in North facing and East to limited cold influence .
plenty of South facing ones which do cath the prevailing winds yes but also let the sun radiate in.
double glazed and would be better to be triple but cost .

Im really keen to build or design some actually 'shutters' of some sort for them either outside ir in , to really have wind chill /extreme weather protection but not got much inspiration yet :unsure:


also on ours and a lot of peoples now, internal wall cavity insulation and cellotex type inside walls plus double layers of loft fluffy stuff.

still needs a heat source of course.

wind breaks help. and shade in Summer.
If we ever knocked hedgerows back in the day, being a livestock farm it was only East to west ones as the others make good wind breaks. ) arable farmers uo country pushed them out for the fun of it .
trees shrubs etc help weather protection if you can grow them which we can.
 
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Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
You’ve really got hold of this ‘damp cold’ thing and run with it!
On all the really cold days here there has been next to no wind out of the NE a dry direction, and I would say the cold air has come down off the Bowland fells and we have been in a frost hollow. It felt very cold but was not unpleasant to work in.

That is very cold for Devon. I can’t imagine where the cold air came from.

I think that is sensible. The milking cows’ water never froze, nightmare if it had, but not a huge amount of work would have saved a lot of time in the 1 in 10 cold winters we get.
The -22 wind chill was written in my diary butThe coldest usually comes from the Due East backing Northerly ,back then according to the weather archive there was a High over Iceland at the time quite wether that had any bearing , maybe on the Jet stream whcih im not sure i knew much about back then :unsure:
but mainly as the wi ter went on it came from (as it often does ) northern continenetal europe and that was experiencing it harsh until into March and that was coming on our way maybe slightly Southerly because then it comes from the open closer to us , ie the across /along the Channel .
I remmber how cold Germany and Holland was at the time because i was on the North sea Coast / .Rotterdam / and up the Elbe to Hamburg which was bitter to put it mildly 🥶

imo medium temps are best :cautious:
 
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Pilatus

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Location
cotswolds
Just dress better 🤷‍♀️
Scandinavian saying “ there’s no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothes”
Quite unbelievable how few people put on
winter clothes these days in offices.
Women in short sleeve dresses, guys just wearing a shirt with no jumper, then they complain about how cold it is:banghead: :banghead: :scratchhead:.
They need reminding that the UK does have winter irrespective of the climate change preaching!!!!
 
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Deerefarmer

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Location
USA
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Sunrise temps.....I have a toque on😬
 

Blaithin

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Alberta
Scandinavian saying “ there’s no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothes”
Quite unbelievable how few people put on
winter clothes these days in offices.
Women in short sleeve dresses, guys just wearing a shirt with no jumper, then they complain about how cold it is:banghead: :banghead: :scratchhead:.
They need reminding that the UK does have winter irrespective of the climate change preaching!!!!
At work we were just discussing with the Filipino what his son should have in his car if he’s going to travel between here and the city in these temperatures.

Blankets. Candles. Toques. Mitts. Sweater/Jacket.

Even if you want to dress for looks vs comfort, be prepared anyway. Even if you only use some of the stuff when you’re fuelling up :LOL:
 

Andy Nash

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Arable Farmer
You can certainly take hot drinks when you get in the vehicle. And snacks.

My list was more stuff you put in and leave it there for the season. Could also add in booster cables and tire inflator. Oh and spare washer fluid :LOL:
Ok, I was thinking about survival. I know we talk about our population, but the northern hills and particularly Scotland can be very remote in bad weather.
Spade
 

Andy Nash

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Arable Farmer
Always thought of parts of Scotland as slightly remote than very remote.
I remember climbing in the Torridon hills in poor weather and realised that if we missed the path heading eastwards, we would walk for 50 miles before coming to a road.
It’s all relative. 50 miles is 15 minutes in a helicopter.
 

Blaithin

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Alberta
Ok, I was thinking about survival. I know we talk about our population, but the northern hills and particularly Scotland can be very remote in bad weather.
Spade
All the stuff I mentioned is for if you’re stranded on the side of the road you won’t freeze to death. You’d freeze long before you’d starve or die of thirst. It’s unlikely you’d be stranded for more than a couple of days even in extreme circumstances here but you can easily freeze in a short period of time. I have an uncle who lost all his toes because he was stuck on the side of the road one night.

#1 rule is don’t leave your car and try and walk somewhere.
 

Andy Nash

Member
Arable Farmer
All the stuff I mentioned is for if you’re stranded on the side of the road you won’t freeze to death. You’d freeze long before you’d starve or die of thirst. It’s unlikely you’d be stranded for more than a couple of days even in extreme circumstances here but you can easily freeze in a short period of time. I have an uncle who lost all his toes because he was stuck on the side of the road one night.

#1 rule is don’t leave your car and try and walk somewhere.
I would say that it would be highly likely that t you would be found in 24 hours or less. Is drifting snow much of a killer in your part of the world? It is a risk here due to the terrain. Back in the 80s we had a sudden blizzard that put maybe 2-3 inches of snow down. Yet it drifted to more than 6 feet 1/2 mile from home burying 4 cars. The occupants spent the night with us.
 

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