SFI - Self Help and Tips

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Member
Location
Kent
Is the application period for these schemes every month of the year ?

Are they all 3 year schemes ?

How do you go on if you rent land on yearly basis and don't get land again into 2nd year of scheme , can you pull that land out ?🤷
You have to state you have management of the land for the 3 years before entering.
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
Well that will leave a lot of land unclaimable then , esp land that gets let thru auction each year for grazing ?
The owner will more than likely maintain control of the land then sell the grass to be cut and or charge a grazing rate but with whatever restrictions are needed for him to claim any sfi in the sale terms or employ the "tenant" as contractor to maintain such sfi at a peppercorn charge to retain management , or at least thats what one agent ive spoken with is suggesting .
 

serf

Member
Location
warwickshire
The owner will more than likely maintain control of the land then sell the grass to be cut and or charge a grazing rate but with whatever restrictions are needed for him to claim any sfi in the sale terms or employ the "tenant" as contractor to maintain such sfi at a peppercorn charge to retain management , or at least thats what one agent ive spoken with is suggesting .
There all these parcels of land 15/20 ac over the country that currently get let where the owner won't be arsed to set up an SBI and go through all that crap surely 🤷
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
There all these parcels of land 15/20 ac over the country that currently get let where the owner won't be arsed to set up an SBI and go through all that crap surely 🤷
if thats what the owner wants to do then nothing has changed as far as the short term renter is concerned . wether it will encourage or not land to come onto the short term market is as yet an unknown but if done withs sfi from the landlord in control they could get a higher income/ac . mindst they would have had to have been claiming bps in the past
 

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Member
Location
Kent
if thats what the owner wants to do then nothing has changed as far as the short term renter is concerned . wether it will encourage or not land to come onto the short term market is as yet an unknown but if done withs sfi from the landlord in control they could get a higher income/ac . mindst they would have had to have been claiming bps in the past
I'm sure it won't be long before anyone will be able to register for claiming SFI, and add new land.
 
Still can’t do my application. It doesn’t list any actions for me to choose from. Rang again. Couldn’t help. Request a call back from the technical team. No call back as of yet. Tried withdrawing and starting again to no avail. Anyone else in the same boat?
 
Just to clarify - if you have a mid-tier agreement as part of which you have AB1 or AB15 revenue options as margins around a parcel - can you legitimately site an area of SAM2 or AHL2 on another area of the same parcel? The areas of AB1/AB15 would not overlap the SAM2/AHL2 so no double funding. The parcel is arable so eligible.
If the parcel was for example 10Ha and there was an area of AB1 of 1 Ha, could you have 1 Ha of AHL2 or SAM2 under SFI - and then grow 8Ha of a crop on the rest?
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Just to clarify - if you have a mid-tier agreement as part of which you have AB1 or AB15 revenue options as margins around a parcel - can you legitimately site an area of SAM2 or AHL2 on another area of the same parcel? The areas of AB1/AB15 would not overlap the SAM2/AHL2 so no double funding. The parcel is arable so eligible.
If the parcel was for example 10Ha and there was an area of AB1 of 1 Ha, could you have 1 Ha of AHL2 or SAM2 under SFI - and then grow 8Ha of a crop on the rest?

That is my understanding and what I have included in SFI applications to date. And since the xmas update it looks as though one can also apply IPM4 to parcels with a mix of CS and SFI 'non crop' options where part of the land parcel is a crop, in the above example 8 hectares. But still cannot split that area of crop, in the example 8 hectares, with part with and part without IPM4. But as ever caveat I may be wrong
 

Lucy1

Member
Arable Farmer
Hi all, I'm a third year Rural land management student at the Royal Agricultural University currently writing my dissertation. I am Researching how farmers are perceiving the Sustainable Farming incentive and how attitudes towards the countryside stewardship scheme have changed.

If anyone could fill out my dissertation survey it would be greatly appreciated, Thank you!

 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
Been waiting a month to get a call to see if I can end my CS early so can do sfi.
Finally got a call this morning...

.... to say my enquiry is still waiting to be seen by the specialist team.
So no closer.
Shouldnt be a problem, you just have to have an sfi application that is equal or better than your CS scheme, ie equal or greater areas of existing options... There are some CS options that are not yet in SFI though so we will be leaving ours to run its course and have SFI running alongside.
 

Boomerang

Member
What to do ?
60 acres rented out for veg and wheat (averages out at ÂŁ300 acre) I claim sfi. 8 acres into a yearly rotational cover crop.
Is it worth the hassle to enter any of the new schemes, don't know which one would apply best. How many hoops will I be caught out by and how much grief to get ,how much .


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4course

Member
Location
north yorks
What to do ?
60 acres rented out for veg and wheat (averages out at ÂŁ300 acre) I claim sfi. 8 acres into a yearly rotational cover crop.
Is it worth the hassle to enter any of the new schemes, don't know which one would apply best. How many hoops will I be caught out by and how much grief to get ,how much .


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depends wether its you your tenant or if any one has been claiming the old scheme but as it would seem you dont have management control of the land fear you are outwith the scheme but you need an agents advice which Im assuming you have one re letting annual cropping .tricky one as similar applies to annual grass lets
 
Location
Cheshire
What to do ?
60 acres rented out for veg and wheat (averages out at ÂŁ300 acre) I claim sfi. 8 acres into a yearly rotational cover crop.
Is it worth the hassle to enter any of the new schemes, don't know which one would apply best. How many hoops will I be caught out by and how much grief to get ,how much .


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I'd be surprised.
 

cattleman123

Member
Location
devon
Jus been offered 100 acres of poor rough grassland, they want 150 an acre for it...5 yr fbt ...rents to high i think...cannot plough any of it, what schemes can i enter it into, to me its far too complicated Thanks
 

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