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What a surprise.
Ultra-processed food linked to 32 harmful effects to health, review finds
World’s largest review finds direct associations with higher risks of cancer, heart disease and early deathwww.theguardian.com
Ultra Processed Food
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my reaction was ,no sh!t sherlock
Swarfmonkey
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Gotta laugh that it's in the Guardian, a newspaper that's taken millions of pounds in funding from "philanthropies" that invested huge amounts of dosh in vegan UPFs.
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That funding source must be drying up, they seem to be deviating a bit from the legacy narrative.
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UPFs are highly profitable and bad for your health. Lots of money for advertorials.
Swarfmonkey
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It went way past advertortials and into the realms of pure propaganda. Their anti-livestock "animals farmed" articles are bankrolled by an organisation that's invested not just huge amounts of money in fake meat UPF manufacturers such as Impossible Foods, but also thrown a great deal of cash at the Good Food Institute (a rather ironic name, to put it mildly) a lobbying organisation that represents the interests of the fake meat UPF industry.
I heard a chap on LBC this afternoon who was seething at the food industrys attitude as regards UPF. He was a research scientist and his wife a sports nutritionalist, he had had type 2 diabetes and was on a mission of correction
First ,sausages and bacon are first part, processsed NOT ultra processed food
They had thrown everything they knew out of the window and reverted to meat and two veg, and cured the diabetes
Of supreme intrest was his research into meat causing bowel cancel , or an 18% increase precisely as quoted some time ago
The data was PICKED from 800 trials, only 30 were chosen, and 770 discarded as they proved NOTHING
Of the 30, some were on rats and mice, and there can be no tie in with humans, and others on VEGITARIANS, what the!!!
The result being that the result was 1.8% increase in bowel cancer risk, That when corrected became 1.3%, and it being nearer to one, means in real terms, scientificaly NO risk
He wanted the journalistic industry to get its teeth into the food industries miss selling of these miss truths
First ,sausages and bacon are first part, processsed NOT ultra processed food
They had thrown everything they knew out of the window and reverted to meat and two veg, and cured the diabetes
Of supreme intrest was his research into meat causing bowel cancel , or an 18% increase precisely as quoted some time ago
The data was PICKED from 800 trials, only 30 were chosen, and 770 discarded as they proved NOTHING
Of the 30, some were on rats and mice, and there can be no tie in with humans, and others on VEGITARIANS, what the!!!
The result being that the result was 1.8% increase in bowel cancer risk, That when corrected became 1.3%, and it being nearer to one, means in real terms, scientificaly NO risk
He wanted the journalistic industry to get its teeth into the food industries miss selling of these miss truths
Bogweevil
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The study looked at over 9 million people so I don't think it can just be dismissed, but there are confounding factors that the study did not address.
Ultraprocessed foods contain ingredients that you do not use in home cooking so bacon and cheese are not technically ultraprocessed.
The study of ultraprocessed foods is in its infancy - best not jump to conclusions just yet.
Ultraprocessed foods contain ingredients that you do not use in home cooking so bacon and cheese are not technically ultraprocessed.
The study of ultraprocessed foods is in its infancy - best not jump to conclusions just yet.
ollie989898
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I'm not going to get into another argument but bacon, bread, cheese: these are processed foods.
Bacon- loaded with brine to maximises it's profitability. Bread and cheese, also loaded with salt. You can see where I am going with this.
We need to opt for a simpler diet, try to cut down saturates and vegetable oils (fats in general), eat more fibre and avoid highly processed foods.
I'm as guilty as the next man- I'd eat bacon, or snaffle an entire pork pie and go and look for more. I eat sandwiches far too often and I'm a sucker for ham. In reality I need to work salad, fruit and veg into my diet more often but that is harder than it sounds sometimes.
Bacon- loaded with brine to maximises it's profitability. Bread and cheese, also loaded with salt. You can see where I am going with this.
We need to opt for a simpler diet, try to cut down saturates and vegetable oils (fats in general), eat more fibre and avoid highly processed foods.
I'm as guilty as the next man- I'd eat bacon, or snaffle an entire pork pie and go and look for more. I eat sandwiches far too often and I'm a sucker for ham. In reality I need to work salad, fruit and veg into my diet more often but that is harder than it sounds sometimes.
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There is a major difference between processed foods (processing includes cooking!) and ultraprocessed food.
We have had a salt reduction programme, and our own cheese tastes of cheese rather than salt, unlike some Gorgonzolas. We are not allowed to vacuum pack some of our cheeses due to the low salt content allowing the risk of toxin development under anaerobic conditions (the last incident of that occurring seems to be about 1976).
Hilly
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There is processing and ultra processing tho.
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- Essex
It's made harder because the corporate food system wants you to buy the UPF. It's more profitable so they don't want to clutter their shelves up with lower margin fresh stuff.
UPFs keep so well because they are full of additives, which makes you wonder what they do to the gut biome.
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Meltom Mobray pork pies are not curred so safer for you, NO NITRATES
When given antibiotics in France, you also recieve probiotics for correction
Paddington
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We make our own bread, flour, yeast and water - no salt. Also our sausages and bacon have no salt added, though there is nitrate in the bacon. Certainly notice the difference when eating a shop bought sausage. 
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How do you do the yeast?We make our own bread, flour, yeast and water - no salt. Also our sausages and bacon have no salt added, though there is nitrate in the bacon. Certainly notice the difference when eating a shop bought sausage.
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We make our own bacon. No nitrates but do use salt. Would rather it that way round tbh.We make our own bread, flour, yeast and water - no salt. Also our sausages and bacon have no salt added, though there is nitrate in the bacon. Certainly notice the difference when eating a shop bought sausage.
Salt is rightly vilified, but our bodies do need a certain amount.
We add no salt to cooking or our meals.
My niece was quite poorly some years ago - they found she was low in salt.
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where is the line?