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- South Pennines ol14
Hope things work out well for you
How do you …. Get out of farming?
- Thread starter Wood field
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- Ceredigion
Can't yiu just rent it out on a Summer let ,keep a bit back for yourself if you must ?
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- South Pennines ol14
If I were to stop then it would sold , to rent this sort of ground at what local farmers pay wouldn’t make sense , I may be wrong but having worked to improve it watching the way some of them treat ground would drive me mad.
To stop farming and move back up to the south lakes would need to release the equity
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Give a keen, reliable and good character youngster a step on the ladder, by giving them a simple share farming agreement.
They work for a basic salary and have the opportunity to buy equity (in the form of livestock) over time.
Get the right person, and you'll have the chance to share your wisdom and experience, and they'll work their socks off to prove themselves and do well.
So much more rewarding than renting, the idea is it's a win-win.
Good luck.
Jasper
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I don’t know you but you always come across as a decent sort of chap would it be possible in France for you to give a young family a share farming type of agreement so you could start to take things easier but still be involved in the farmi can’t imagine selling the cows
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- Limousin/Charentes toad land
funnily enough I have been looking, without success. That’s not to say we have been looking in the right place
. But there is a certain pattern that the current generation here are not keen on the livestock work. Many farms have been sold, are for sale by French farmers in their 50’s as their own kids don’t want to know.Neighbours on either side are one of each, I am sure the one with a son (only one of his two) who wants to continue with the livestock farming knows how lucky he is
Jasper
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Would you be able to get someone from the uk ? There seems to be a lot of capable youngsters looking for farms that aren’t therefunnily enough I have been looking, without success. That’s not to say we have been looking in the right place
Neighbours on either side are one of each, I am sure the one with a son (only one of his two) who wants to continue with the livestock farming knows how lucky he is
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- Ceredigion
Chaps up this way are getting close to £200 acre for summer let's, its a common thing for those who want to step back but not sell up
But I don't know many that sell up and regret it ,the thought of makes it hard to do
Devil's advocate
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- Posh side of Barnsley
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- South Pennines ol14
Last time we talked about rent it was £50 acre per year !
Devil's advocate
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- Posh side of Barnsley
What is the land worth & who gets the payments. That sounds really good for hill land.
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- South Pennines ol14
We rent 16 acres from the old chap we bought part of the farm from @£50 acre , we keep dubs and his moor rights
It’s an extreme example for sure.our best land with sheds and electricity whilst talking to a neighbour who rents a lot of ground, he said £85 acre and he wanted the sub
If there’s no money in it for one , where’s the money for two coming from.
Face up to reality . Small farms, especially on difficult ground aren’t profitable enough unless it’s a hobby or the wife/ partner subsidises it .
It is so hard to make a start in farming, there are keen ones out there that will find a way, think differently about problems, bring new ideas, and work another job as well.
Plenty of success stores out there.
A profit share can often be achieved that is as good for the OP as renting out the farm, with the other rewards of still being engaged in the business, and helping someone else get on.
It still comes down to how much profit there is on a hill farm without government support. The OP says he needs the wife’s job to keep his head above water, so I don’t see it being divisible again with a new entrant
Jasper
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No sorry jaspers the name of the best dog we’ve ever had
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- Montgomeryshire
merino
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- The North East
It is true that there are parts of the job I don't want to talk about, so I've saved myself some bother by not talking about them.
The stock bit is fairly straightforward, one guy didn't like the sheep he'd bought and spent an evening following me around a pub yelling at me. Odd guy.
He could have just contacted the mart.
The first guy through the door pitched an absolute fit when I said no to 40 percent off. I was twenty six and he then took considerable issue with someone so young selling his wildest dreams.
Dad wasn't very well that day if you're wondering about the whys and wherefores.
We had a guy in the kitchen threaten my mother over a boundary dispute, we had a neighbour in screaming at me for cleaning another neighbours ditch, I left a gate open.
One guy sent his wife to cry to our solicitor, literally.
One sale fell through, lots of drama there.
The farm buyer tried to hunt me down over some bales of hay as well. Apparently he intended to intimidate me into giving him money, 12 bales I believe was the problem. I watched him drive about looking for me.
It all sounds torrid but it took place over 2 years. Most people, even the guy who showed up after the funeral, were lovely.
I had great holiday in Miami to celebrate the sale as well.
The interactions with the community are a bit of a weird one, its is important to note I did leave, so I forfeit a considerable quantity of right to complain. But things do change.
While I was selling the place I did get interviewed by my young farmers. We were all out drinking and they got I think eighteen people all sat around me in a circle demanding I tell them my future plans. I felt my motivations would offend them, they felt I wasn't being honest, the situation devolved into farce. I guess they were rightly upset, but I had concerns about their motivations.
More seriously and obviously after we sold I did go to a show to see what was going on and no one there under 30 from my area would talk to me, they never have since.
Hi Gary! and they will keep on walking sort of thing.
Oh, one guy told me to f**k off back to my own country cause he reckoned he'd get away with it. I guess he was right.
Ultimately my friends showed up 20mins later and I immediately got on with the rest of my life.
Mum's wri don't talk to her either, but they're all dead, so fair enough.
Most people though are totally respectful and supportive and don't see you any different with a farm or without. Quite a few of them liked to ask about it so they a can tell their families what the markets like, and that's fine too.
The local travelling family were amazing throughout all this, they helped us out a lot.
Rich_ard
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I'd think there will as many new entrants give up as have success. Unless it's a neighbour son who can use free machines and trailers and handling pens then it's a difficult sell. Someone will be keen to buy it no doubt, what they do with it, who knows!