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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
I never go into the canteen at Northallerton but whenever I walk past nowadays it looks like nobody else does anymore. Always used to be heaving Tuesday and Wednesday but now once breakfasts are finished it’s dead
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
More like insist they use GWP* and not GWP100 or they can leave now as they are going to stitch you up with false statistics.

Time we started to set the rules and that means using the correct modelling.
Yes uts the reason why farming is going through the mess it is now. If it wasn't for gwp100 no one would have ever thought of getting rid of the cattle and sheep because they would be able to see that they aren't a problem.
I tried to get gwp100/gwp* onto the agenda for the Welsh protests but it got so far and then sort of fizzled out. I think no one really understands it so they ignore it because they think it's a load of sh!t. Some people who were quite enthusiastic about it asked me to do a video explaining it it's somewhere on Facebook and tiktok 🙈 but it still didn't really register with people.
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
Yes uts the reason why farming is going through the mess it is now. If it wasn't for gwp100 no one would have ever thought of getting rid of the cattle and sheep because they would be able to see that they aren't a problem.
I tried to get gwp100/gwp* onto the agenda for the Welsh protests but it got so far and then sort of fizzled out. I think no one really understands it so they ignore it because they think it's a load of sh!t. Some people who were quite enthusiastic about it asked me to do a video explaining it it's somewhere on Facebook and tiktok 🙈 but it still didn't really register with people.
Here it is before anyone asks :bag:
 
Rubbish 2 years ago grain prices went to nearly £300 a ton on the back of low fert prices to grow it.

The sheep trade 2 years ago did not jump anything like the grain price did.

Straw now is worth a fortune, £150 ton + delivered in the SW yet arable farmers cannot be bothered to bale it and would rather chop it so that is £150 acre + chucked out the back of the combine as its too much work to bale it/ stack and load the straw... 1000 acre arable farm that equals £150,000 thrown away yet you say they need more help than sheep farmers in the form of subs.... aye right:rolleyes:

Yep sheep prices have been okay the last 2 months but that is off the back of some very low prices the last 4/5 years!
I'll not argue.

Just keep more sheep & less arable, seems to be the way to go.

I don't agree with the rewilding, not at all just creating a tinder box. Commercial forestry does have a place, but for timber not full of weed bushes.
 

Llanman

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Sir Drefaldwyn
Here it is before anyone asks :bag:
Did say in reply to one of the questions in the SFS consultation that they should be using GWP star and not the flawed GPW 100 not that I am up to speed with the science but understand enough to know its being used to screw Welsh/uk livestock farmers.
Weather enough respondents would have said something similar for them to take any notice I don't know but I doubt it, (take any notice I mean).
 
Location
Cleveland
I never go into the canteen at Northallerton but whenever I walk past nowadays it looks like nobody else does anymore. Always used to be heaving Tuesday and Wednesday but now once breakfasts are finished it’s dead
I remember when I’d left school taking hoggs to Northallerton on a Tuesday and buying calves on a Wednesday and Mrs N had the cafe then….the food was top notch
 

hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
I think it could be a semi-positive message:

"Yes, I'll go along with your carbon audits, if you do it right"
Absolutely we could (should?) do it if they did it right. But it's in no one's interest but ours to do it through GWP-star but ours.
If we were allowed to use GWP-star and add in what the grass sequestered we would find out most grassland farms had spare carbon to offset something else. It could be very valuable.
We will struggle to get it though. Governments want our carbon and biodiversity net gain through their sustainable farming schemes, supermarkets want it through their assurance schemes with their greener farms Commitment. There's a thread on gfc you should read it they're basically trying to make you give it to them through red tractor.
And hardly anyone has noticed yet. The British farming Union on here and the national sheep association are the only unions I know fighting this it's a bloody disgrace how we're being treated.
 
Apparently he reckons its ‘we’
Who’s this we that’s farming the land?
 

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