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Vader · Feb 10, 2024

neilo said:
You had direct access, on several occasions. Why didn’t you get them to use GMP* instead of GMP100?

The meetings were about sfi and Janet does not decided on gwp type stuff.

BFU has a working group with AHDB.
They were all keen for our input on gwp*
Regular interaction. But once we started proving the argument for gwp* they have backed off..

Sonoftheheir · Feb 10, 2024

Sorry what is the GWP acronym?

Vader · Feb 10, 2024

Sonoftheheir said:
Sorry what is the GWP acronym?

Global warming potential

Vader · Feb 10, 2024

delilah said:
I know, 100%, where you are coming from. But we wont be cancelling. Various attempts at representative bodies have come and gone. Very difficult to start from scratch in an expanding industry, never mind a retracting one. The reality is, whether anyone likes it or not, that our best hope of decent representation is to get the NFU to do its job better. Which starts with members kicking off and telling their elected reps what needs to change, not just muttering on here.

Been quite a few people say they tried to tell the problems but they just get shut down or ignored.
If your not a yes man to the cartels agenda, then you don't progress up the ranks.
The only way the nfu could reform would be for everyone above simple member level to resign. Then have a restart with 1 man 1 vote for every post going forwards.
But it will never happen as the ones on the greasy pile now will never agree to it as they know that they unlikely to get voted in.

lloyd · Feb 10, 2024

I know that there are quietly more farmers
joining the bfu but if someone asked me what
they stand for or what they want to achieve i wouldn't
have a clue.I'm not trying to be critical just my personal observation.

Raider112 · Feb 10, 2024

Sonoftheheir said:
Sorry what is the GWP acronym?

Methane has a lifespan of 12 years, GWP100 measures it as if it has a life of 100 years. GWP* measures it as having a lifespan of 12 years, as you can imagine that makes a massive difference to the methane from ruminants figures.
GWP* is becoming more accepted but those with an agenda obviously don't want that.

Vader · Feb 10, 2024

See attached

Vader · Feb 10, 2024

lloyd said:
I know that there are quietly more farmers
joining the bfu but if someone asked me what
they stand for or what they want to achieve i wouldn't
have a clue.I'm not trying to be critical just my personal observation.

SilliamWhale · Feb 10, 2024

lloyd said:
I know that there are quietly more farmers
joining the bfu but if someone asked me what
they stand for or what they want to achieve i wouldn't
have a clue.I'm not trying to be critical just my personal observation.

How about get the cancellation of the GFC and not allowing private companies like RT to distort the market?

homefarm · Feb 10, 2024

My understanding on methane was that removing one methane atom has the same effect as removing 256 CO2 atoms.
Threrfore to achieve a quick fix with the numbers you kill the cows and keep on flying.

lloyd · Feb 10, 2024

SilliamWhale said:
How about get the cancellation of the GFC and not allowing private companies like RT to distort the market?

I see they had a one page advert in the farmers weekly but a lot of
farmers don't buy it any more.
Who are the people running it and in charge?

Vader · Feb 10, 2024

lloyd said:
I see they had a one page advert in the farmers weekly but a lot of
farmers don't buy it any more.
Who are the people running it and in charge?

On website and in the bfu section on here.

SilliamWhale · Feb 10, 2024

lloyd said:
I see they had a one page advert in the farmers weekly but a lot of
farmers don't buy it any more.
Who are the people running it and in charge?

@Grass And Grain is a lead co-ordinator. Lots of others are contributing, I've done some things on their behalf

Hfd Cattle · Feb 10, 2024

lloyd said:
I see they had a one page advert in the farmers weekly but a lot of
farmers don't buy it any more.
Who are the people running it and in charge?

BFU.org.uk

Fruitloop · Feb 12, 2024

Clive said:
in my experience they will do nothing on this particular issue, just look at the attitude demonstrated by leadership this last month, there is a massive conflict of interest over this RT issue and they will support Red tractor to moon and back

your membership is your only direct vote on this ....... if / when they do as the majority clearly want then simply rejoin, if they don’t they are no longer fit for purpose

All of these lobbying bodies are too close to the enemy by far.
Look at BASC on lead shot...ramming home policy for which there is no evidence. Better take lead out of houses than messing about with shot. They also have a plan to create a network for DSC 2 holders to stalk across the country, having said all along that they would never advocate DSC qualifications as a requirement.
Look at the Countryside Alliance, planning to adopt a version of Red Tractor for game shoots. They have all lost their way and need to get back to doing what they are paid to do. Rumour had it they were there for their members. They seem to have forgotten who pays their wages and what they are there for.
None are worth the sub. Bin them all off.

Sonoftheheir · Mar 9, 2024

Had the NFU branch secretary around yesterday, apparently we will loose £800 discount on farm insurance and life cover of £60k from cancelling.

He said cancelling is not the way to bring around change, and he’s only had one other cancel in his patch

Bury the Trash · Mar 9, 2024

thats all salesman bull sh!t. he would try to stop leavers because he will lose his commission.

Pigless · Mar 9, 2024

Sonoftheheir said:
Had the NFU branch secretary around yesterday, apparently we will loose £800 discount on farm insurance and life cover of £60k from cancelling.

He said cancelling is not the way to bring around change, and he’s only had one other cancel in his patch

We left NFU mutual when we cancelled NFU, went back to mutual a year later and it was much cheaper than when we had all the so called benefits of membership. It's rubbish, and they really don't like to accept/admit how many have resigned.

Flatland guy · Mar 9, 2024

Sonoftheheir said:
Had the NFU branch secretary around yesterday, apparently we will loose £800 discount on farm insurance and life cover of £60k from cancelling.

He said cancelling is not the way to bring around change, and he’s only had one other cancel in his patch

Have you had any other quotes for farm insurance?

Flatland guy · Mar 9, 2024

Sonoftheheir said:
Had the NFU branch secretary around yesterday, apparently we will loose £800 discount on farm insurance and life cover of £60k from cancelling.

He said cancelling is not the way to bring around change, and he’s only had one other cancel in his patch

If he has only had one other leave in his patch he will not be bothered then.

If you do quit the NFU, you can rejoin at a later date if you wish, I do not believe there is a loyalty discount for being a member for X years or whatever.

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