Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
They have opinions on how the job should be done yet vote with their wallets ..
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livestock 1
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Otherwise they will buy it (whatever that may be) from somewhere else
Bit like what ends up happening to people that go on strike
Bit like what ends up happening to people that go on strike
livestock 1
Member
Just a gut feeling I have might be wrong but doesn’t feel right to me
- Location
- somerset
it most certainly isn't right.
but we live in an increasingly mad mad world, it definitely needs a massive reset.
its how that reset happens, that scares me.
in the meantime, we have the difficult path to follow, that's best for us.
I just feel that as with arable farmers who are rushing up to put the farm into SFI, there will be a lot of stock making way for the easy life and the green money.we are planning for post SFI, we will have enough breeding livestock, and some to sell
we look at SFI as an interim policy, while we go through some fundamental changes to our business.
I'm in a stewardship agreement so no SFI for the moment. Be interesting to see how things pan out over the next 10 months or so. What I do know is that it's been tricky to comply utterly to all the options I chose. To be honest, it will be almost a relief when the agreement ends. I am not in a rush to start a new agreement.
Woolless
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- Location
- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
You could bed down in there and turn the heating off in the house?The pig sty is the place to be on these days , clean warm mmmm , dont have to go out into elements . About 30 degrees in kennelView attachment 1169029
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
harperfarmer
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I've got a lot of acres still to be planted this spring. Some are absolutely waterlogged and it's chucked it down all day today. Unlikely to plant anything before April the something. I could try and buy spring barley seed for probably £550+/t to take maybe 2t/acre at £140ish/t or I could plant it with winter bird food for £853/ha in April/May time when it may have dried out properly. I know there is a % needs to be retained for 3 years but even so it does focus the mind for our situation. SFI keeps getting kicked and yes it probably will come to an end but I can't see why you wouldn't take a slice while you can because of some moral conundrum.
- Location
- Devon
I fear that politically, we have been plot a route to sail, up Schitt's Creek.
SFI will not unfold like anyone wanted and it will be our fault.
That will set the next government up to do whatever they want to UK ag, as they will have the general public 'on-side'.
Evil farmers abusing the system, if food production drops.
Evil farmers can't be trusted to care for the environment, if there is low take up.
We have always carried the blame for following government policies. This will be seen by the public in the future as even worse than being paid to drain and remove hedges.
- Location
- somerset
we used to keep a lot of sows, dry sows ran in either of two paddocks. One of my 'holiday' jobs was to feed the bloody things, this involved creeping quietly up, hopefully without the buggers noticing, through the gate, and run like feck, with a bag of nuts, on your shoulder, trickling out the cobs, followed by a squealing mob of sows. Aged about 11/12, used to terrify me, any surplus shot rabbits, got chucked in the fields, a sow made short work of a rabbit, and damn certain, if you tripped/knocked over, they would make short work of you. About 60/70 in each lot.
didn't get any better, as l got older, then someone murdered his mrs, and fed her to the pigs, in all the papers/headlines. Just confirmed what l had suspected, once down, you would be lucky to get out.
one lot ran a 4 acre bank, of gorse bushes, one had to count the sows, if short, you had to start searching. Occasionally one would catch us out, and farrow out there, they would tunnel into the centre of bushes, nest and farrow in there, not the best of experiences, getting them out, without the sow going for you.
sold them early 80's, facilities were worn out, and no profit. But, l will admit to missing them, and have kept odd ones over the years. A nice quiet sow, lovely thing.
could probably write a book, about the escapades etc they got up to, had some seriously funny times with them. Up til the early 70's, the pigs took preference over the dairy, OM made some serious money out of the pigs. Times changed, pigs went out of fashion, in old buildings where we kept them, cleaned out with shovel and brush, just no longer viable.
livestock 1
Member
It isn’t a moral conundrum. It’s alienating our current customers in exchange for selling to a different customer where the outcome has no future
- Location
- North Yorkshire
You are correct. Spelling was definitely 100% INCORECT.
Devil's advocate
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- Location
- Posh side of Barnsley
Odd because many of the options for herbal leys contain lucurne or sainfoin crops which are best suited to chalk or limestone soils.
I'm trying 9 acres of herbal ley & intend to make it work.
Sow mid April
Mob stock when established
Weed wipe what the sheep won't eat
Allow recovery
Mob stock
repeat
Shut up 20th July till 1st August
Consider selling stood up to a neighbour or if poor growth graze & then flail.
Use to fatten lambs in the Autumn (red clover)
Only very lightly graze in winter to reduce winter kill, then rest till spring.
Three years of that then a first wheat.
If it works will have 40 to 50 acres at the expense of barley crops. If I grow so much herbal leys will stagger the 5 week flowering period & experiment with round baling & wrapping or even barn dried loose hay.
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
What are you going to do with all this silage and hay?
We got some gs4 (only 8 acres) not very productive on land that should really be finishing a lot of lambs on. Graze next week, then mid may (after mobbing up ewes and lambs for a week, shut up for 5 then graze with dry ewes before topping off what’s left and graze one for for a week before tupping. All this is with 200 ewes.
- Location
- Durham, UK
Well take both shillings and feck em. It might change sooner than you think, see the sainsburys are already twisting. (Posted on the gfc thread)
livestock 1
Member
Did you rip them out with the mower bed?
livestock 1
Member
No I used a Spit
Expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive offer for farmers published
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From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024
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From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024
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