Ivermectin , covid cure

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon

There are specific circumstances for use of AZ vaccine in the UK. It's now called Vaxzevria. Stock is ordered in from the EU when necessary ~


You're sounding very aggressive. You have been misled into anti-vaccine disinformation. It could have happened to anyone, because that's the nature of the anti-vaccine disinformation trap. The fact is that the history of AZ is well recorded. The safety profile of mRNA vaccines is higher, so it was superceded.
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
There are specific circumstances for use of AZ vaccine in the UK. It's now called Vaxzevria. Stock is ordered in from the EU when necessary ~


You're sounding very aggressive. You have been misled into anti-vaccine disinformation. It could have happened to anyone, because that's the nature of the anti-vaccine disinformation trap. The fact is that the history of AZ is well recorded. The safety profile of mRNA vaccines is higher, so it was superceded.
Do you believe in silver bullets ?
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Or is it magic bullets , either way all a waste of time and money
When I was a girl, I thought that when I grew up, medicine would be just like in Star Trek. "Bones" McCoy's successors would wave gadgetry and cure everything with a waft.

Medicine is what works to prevent or treat disease and damage. It doesn't need believing in.
 
People need to understand the difference between pathogens like measles, small pox, influenza and coronaviruses before commenting on vaccine efficacy. Small pox from memory had less than 10 identified strains that were ever found in the wild but many many more were developed extensively by biological weapon engineering. To believe any vaccine would protect you from all small pox strains is a very long shot- we just don't know because the work basically hasn't been done.

It is worth knowing that the actual small pox vaccine was actually made from an actual pox virus. It is fortunate that there was less virulent virus around to be able to do this. Not all emerging diseases that might potentially infect the human race will have a tame cousin we can make a vaccine from. Who here would volunteer to be vaccinated with a for-real HIV virus? I don't think I would be the first to volunteer for that.

Measles, whilst being highly infectious, again is very limited in the number of strains that have ever been identified in the wild. Some of them have not been detected globally in years. This greatly simplifies the production of any vaccine against it.

Those questioning the utility of vaccines for coronavirus perhaps should also question the value of influenza and pneumococcal vaccines which are given to millions of people worldwide. The reality is that all of us will become old and thus become a lot more susceptible to serious illness or complications arising from being infected by them.

This will not be the last time we see an mRNA vaccine developed. Researchers are hot on the heels of all kinds of vaccines using this technology. I wouldn't bet we have seen the back of adenoviral vectors yet, either. If you want to complain about a risk of blood clots, you should note that covid is known to cause hyper-coagulopathies and it is a fair bet that a lot of the people complaining of post-vaccine effects were in fact infected with covid itself.
 

Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
Anti-smoking 'agenda'?? I see. So you perceive this as being somehow false or being driven by some other motive?

With the amount of tax money the gov makes on tobacco, I’m surprised at the level of vilification to be honest.

I don’t think smoking can be all bad, I wonder how a population chart of smokers v obese persons looks over time, it certainly seems to keep the appetite at bay, and I’d bet smokers would beat the obese by multiples of 10 in terms of productivity.

We all know old folk that made it well up into their eighties or nineties that enjoyed a cigarette, 17st+……..not so many.
The dangers are well documented, if folk want to smoke, let them I say, maybe join them and stick it to the man, look cool while you’re at it 🚬 😎.
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
All I'm doing is my best to present sound scientific evidence. It's something the anti-vaccine disinformation merry-go-round cannot do, because it is based in nonsense, ackamarackus, lies, and corruption.
You are doing your best to present biased scientific evidence that concludes in favour of your argument, whilst rubbishing and discrediting very eminent scientists who’s evidence is contrary to your own opinion.

The END!
 

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