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- South Wales UK
In Parliament vote tonight.
2009 born kids onwards banned.
Lots for it but some parties against it ?
2009 born kids onwards banned.
Lots for it but some parties against it ?
Smoking Ban Legislation Bill
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Hindsight
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- Lincolnshire
Banned from purchasing but not banned from actually smoking, I think, do correct me if wrong.
caveman
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- Location
- East Sussex.
Follow the money.
The fuqers and their mates want us all living like cabbages in their nursing homes for years on end until they liquidate all of our assets and rob us of our money to pay for it.
Fuq that. I'm going to smoke and die happy before I ever get near a home and have something left for my kids to inherit.
The fuqers and their mates want us all living like cabbages in their nursing homes for years on end until they liquidate all of our assets and rob us of our money to pay for it.
Fuq that. I'm going to smoke and die happy before I ever get near a home and have something left for my kids to inherit.
- Location
- South Wales UK
Interesting how the Welsh MP'S voted.
(Or didn't?)
www.walesonline.co.uk
(Or didn't?)
How every Welsh MP voted on plan to ban smoking for anyone born after 2009
There will also be a crackdown on vapes in order to make them less appealing to children
www.walesonline.co.uk
Charlie Gill
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- Kent
Danllan
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- Location
- Sir Gar / Carms
How many people dying wretchedly of lung / oesophageal cancer etc. have seemed happy to you?
kfpben
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- Mid Hampshire
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Just checking- is it this bunch of hypocrites who have just banned smoking?
Illiberal cockwombles.
Brilliant!
I work it out to be £127,750 revenue from a smoker over a 50 yr. timescale.
I'd just like to thank him for shouldering that tax burden so I don't have to.
Keep up the good work!
- Location
- South Wales UK
Yes ban drugs they want too full stop.
- Location
- Limousin
Plus the fact that smokers are more likely to die prematurely saving the NHS/ Government on pensions and long-term age related healthcare. And as a thought, is this current mental health and obesity spiral related to people not smoking anymore as the go to method of stress relief.
That having been said, weren't we told for years that smoking was the root of ill-health and cancer especially.How many people dying wretchedly of lung / oesophageal cancer etc. have seemed happy to you?
If the use of tobacco could be eliminated, or hugely reduced, cancer rates would fall dramatically.
Well it's use has been hugely reduced and to a scale which would have been difficult to envisage 30 0r 40 years ago.
Yet cancer rates are soaring, so something hasn't went to plan.
*edit* - oh, and I'm a non-smoker before you ask, or assume incorrectly!
Danllan
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- Sir Gar / Carms
Take a squint at the demographics for it, and the types of cancer; it makes sense.
Oh I don't doubt that it makes sense, but that wasn't the point.
Plainly there are other things needing an equal degree of scrutiny which isn't happening.
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- East Dartmoor, Devon
I'm against any ban on smoking as it is an attack on personal freedoms. If you are 18 or over you should be allowed to purchase and smoke tobacco where you want within reason.
I agree in principle, but the problem is that it's effects aren't solely limited to the person smoking.
Once the dangers associated with passive smoking became undeniable, the issue changed entirely.
So even you argue that a person has the right to harm themselves, they don't have the right to harm someone else.
Danllan
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- Sir Gar / Carms
I don't know because my own medical studies were extremely limited, but I take it on good authority that there is now no doubt at all about the link between smoking an cancer.
There are other carcinogens, lots, and some medics think there will be a nexus found to many types of plastics, preservatives etc.. We now know for fact that the biggest factor regarding cancer incidence is the individual's own genetic make-up.
And also...
I realise treatment of those affected by it's different forms is paramount.
But I also think that it's becoming so prevalent, that serious funding needs to be diverted to identifying causes and serious action taken, including legislation, where appropriate.
It used to be something like one in ten would know someone affected by cancer, it's now almost one in two will actually have a form of cancer.
Such an extreme exponential increase surely justifies positive identification of causes, followed by mitigation measures.