Thus given the gearbox is fitted to other models, the main reason anyone would buy one of these new kubotas is this 6.6l engine, and hoping they implement Japanese reliability on everything else. ?
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Thus given the gearbox is fitted to other models, the main reason anyone would buy one of these new kubotas is this 6.6l engine, and hoping they implement Japanese reliability on everything else. ?
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People might buy it because they like orange, a colour notorious for fading. That's up to them. I reckon that in a very competitive market that has many rivals in the class of tractor, the two main reasons for buying a Kubota would be a cheaper price and proximity to, and/or existing dealer relationship. I honestly can't think of any compelling reason otherwise to switch to a Kubota 130 to 170hp tractor. For many, these are good enough valid reasons.
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Maybe because it's the corporate colour for kubota and most construction machinery is orange,apart from caterpillar who are yellow,obviously
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maybe bought leftover paint from nuffield.
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If dealers are good enough yes they might
How about Japanese quality control and reliability, and a 5 year warranty as standard.
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Five year warranty is good, especially for the low annual hour customer that it covers as standards and as long as service costs are competitive.
Japanese quality control has been matched by most others these days and possibly by the French Kubota assembly plant along with the ZF plant that supplies the transaxle to Kubota, ready built.
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Standard warranty is 3000 hours, can be upped to 4000 or 5000 for a small premium. 1000 hours/year is not low.
I think they have the complete package; a premium tractor with well proven components, a 5 year / 3000 hour warranty as standard (unheard of in this market, and not offered by any competitors) and it's very competitively priced (significantly cheaper than some competitors.)
Yes they probably have had to offer all this to get into the market, but the tractors are selling and they'll gradually start to take market share. It won't happen overnight but they are a very wealthy company who want to be one of the major players in this market; and I see no reason for this not to happen.
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The reason i bought one was the impressive manner in which it performed when demonstrated last autumn easily matching a 195 hp 6 cylinder rival marque. You are right, though,the price was competive and we have a strong dealer in the locality .I think in years to come Kubota will become a strong brand in the medium to large tractor market,they also seem to have a good attitude and are keen to develop a strong relationship with their customers.
Early days,i know,but so far so good.
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Try buying a glow plug for a Kubota, yer eyes will bleed!
About 4 times the expected price.(from memory)
And zero markings on the extracted glowplug to allow cross matching/altn. sourcing.
Other bits and components ( i.e. steering box bits), unique to Kubota can (or at least were) shocking expensive, Like Komatsu expensive!
At least on their groundcare side.
20 25 years ago their diesel ride on lawnmowers were supberbly engineered, the G17/G19's, for example
today?,
I fear their quality has slipped a bit due to, in my preception, to cost cutting measures.
Basically "resting on their laurels"
I do also recall, when they first ventured into the agricultural market, their cabs were very poorly finished, wires hanging out everywhere etc etc.
Though, if they are keen to build Agricultural market share, and they devote the same care as they used to in their grass cutting stuff, their tractors should be a good product
mth
About 4 times the expected price.(from memory)
And zero markings on the extracted glowplug to allow cross matching/altn. sourcing.
Other bits and components ( i.e. steering box bits), unique to Kubota can (or at least were) shocking expensive, Like Komatsu expensive!
At least on their groundcare side.
20 25 years ago their diesel ride on lawnmowers were supberbly engineered, the G17/G19's, for example
today?,
I fear their quality has slipped a bit due to, in my preception, to cost cutting measures.
Basically "resting on their laurels"
I do also recall, when they first ventured into the agricultural market, their cabs were very poorly finished, wires hanging out everywhere etc etc.
Though, if they are keen to build Agricultural market share, and they devote the same care as they used to in their grass cutting stuff, their tractors should be a good product
mth
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Cowabunga
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1000 hours per year is not the standard warranty. You can purchase a 5000 hour 5 year warranty for just about all brands, some of which are limited in scope, some which charge an excess with every claim and others which are full factory warranties with no restrictions other than dealer servicing.
No doubt. Starting from the bottom in this sector, the only way is up, assuming they persist, which they show every sign of doing. Now all they need is a standard unrestricted five year warranty on Kv/Vikon/Kubota implements to show their equal confidence in these.
Fact is, of course, they build the cost of the extended warranty into the price. Nothing comes free. They have a cost to cover and they obviously cover it and charge extra to extend it, as others do.
Good marketing though. Especially since major components will be no more reliable than those same components used by cheaper [and more expensive] rivals.
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NH parts are on the expensive side, but the skid steer loader parts are ridiculous. Anything vaguely 'leisure' or 'industrial' seem to have parts prices that are a nightmare. Agricultural parts tend to be moderate in comparison, but its always worth checking.
Before buying an orange tractor, or any tractor actually, I would compare a few spare parts prices with others. Fan belt. Alternator. Starter. Filters. Linkage lift switch, internal and exterior. Track rod ends. Flywheel damper or clutch. Also service intervals of both engine and transmission and the labour cost of services and whether dealer service was required to validate the warranty.
3000 hours is standard warranty. Premium for upping the hoursit is very small compared to buying extended warranty (read skeptical insurance policy) from other manufacturers.
Kubota warranty is a manufacturer backed warranty, not an insurance policy. Covers everything you'd reasonably expect. No excesses either.
Yes it's built into the price but when they're competitive and in many cases significantly cheaper than a like for like machine from another manufacturer, who cares/try's to pull that apart? Only you it would seem.
Yes the components are the same as other manufacturers (albeit built to Kubota spec and over speed for their hp rating) but this has been the case with many big manufacturers for many years. Its no different to MF using a GIMMA transmission, Dana front axle(?), and Valtra engine.
The fact of the matter is no other manufacturer using similar components is offering a 5 year warranty as standard.
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I'm not taking anything apart. If it is competitively priced and people like it, go for it. I believe I mentioned the warranty as being a positive sales incentive that could be of benefit to the owner. If I didn't make that clear, I have now.
I did not say it was different to anyone else. Indeed they use the same transaxle as Deutz and McCormick and possibly some models of John Deere. You are being far too sensitive if you infer that to be a negative point. However, nobody should expect the Kubota brand to imply that these tractors will therefore automatically be more reliable than those others by way of a Japanese association. That would be plain silly. They are what they are. Proven components made into a new tractor range that is worthy of consideration on its merits. The range will doubtless sell as many as they can assemble in the French factory for the foreseeable future. Hopefully they will have all the backup infrastructure in place by now to give customers a great ownership experience with the minimum of teething issues from the go.
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That's what a 150hp tractor dyno should look like
Do the Kubota engines have a boost?
20 hp on the 131 and 151 only 5 on the 171, on pto and transport, was out with it ploughing this week, unbelievable torque low down!!
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That's what a 150hp tractor dyno should look like
Do the Kubota engines have a boost?
Yes but apparently it only comes in when moving forward and PTO under load.
I saw a fresh (under 5 hours) M7151 do 145 hp on a dyno. [emoji1303]