Sold as seen

P.O.T · Oct 18, 2017

Went to look at a used slurry tanker the other day. Had a look round all seemed fine with it. Spoke to salesman etc said was checked over a everything working. Has sent me an email of used machinery order form listing tanker, sprung drawbar, led lights etc then wrote 'sold as seen' at the bottom. Not parted with any money yet but just made me think did i miss something. Anybody got any thoughts?

Shutesy · Oct 18, 2017

Is it at a dealers? How have they tested it in their yard to ensure it all works? Can you go have another look round?

multi power · Oct 18, 2017

Yet he said it was checked over and everything working
I guess he just wants to avoid any come back, and that's fine, as long as it's sold as seen price

roscoe erf · Oct 18, 2017

just means there is no warranty

Dry Rot · Oct 18, 2017

Send cheque with a covering letter stating, "Please find enclosed cheque for the tanker which I am purchasing on your assurance that it is in good working order and free from any defects over and above fair wear and tear". Make sure you keep a copy. I'd also send recorded delivery. But then I am a cynic!

P.O.T · Oct 18, 2017

Yeah in a main dealers yard. Said everything working. Looking up 'sold as seen' and it says it is not a legal term and if its said to be in full working order then sold as seen means nothing if it doesnt work. Not much to go wrong with a slurry tanker really apart from pump. Which he said wS working tanker only 3 years old thats what made me wonder

Skimmer · Oct 18, 2017

If he says it is in good working that's what it must be, he can not then sell it to you sold has seen.

Zebbedee · Oct 18, 2017

Pretty standard with S/h sales really, you obviously still have legal rights if it is not what it seems just don,t expect them to send out a fitter if a taillight isn't working

Lincs Lass · Oct 18, 2017

Sold as Seen only means you have looked round it and if you havent actually tested it in working conditions ,then its your fault for not checking it thoroughly and if it should go wrong ,the dealers has wiped their hands of it with no come back

Campbell · Oct 18, 2017

Any trader will have legal responsibilities for the sale of goods. I suppose you could sign away your rights for any future claims in exchange for a better deal. Only private individuals are outside trading laws.

Renaultman · Oct 18, 2017

i put 'Sold as seen, no warranty written or implied' Not sure what good it does me, and I normally spend ages telling the potential buyer every little thing that has or could go wrong with stuff anyway.

Dry Rot · Oct 18, 2017

Doesn't it depend whether it is a business seller or a private seller?

d williams · Oct 18, 2017

P.O.T said:
Went to look at a used slurry tanker the other day. Had a look round all seemed fine with it. Spoke to salesman etc said was checked over a everything working. Has sent me an email of used machinery order form listing tanker, sprung drawbar, led lights etc then wrote 'sold as seen' at the bottom. Not parted with any money yet but just made me think did i miss something. Anybody got any thoughts?

What warren ty do you give on a trade in to your dealer?
I think it's clear that it's sold as seen
No come backs!
Which I think is better then a argument later everyone knows where they stand

tr250 · Oct 18, 2017

P.O.T said:
Went to look at a used slurry tanker the other day. Had a look round all seemed fine with it. Spoke to salesman etc said was checked over a everything working. Has sent me an email of used machinery order form listing tanker, sprung drawbar, led lights etc then wrote 'sold as seen' at the bottom. Not parted with any money yet but just made me think did i miss something. Anybody got any thoughts?

Is it your local dealer or a dealer you know if so go and fetch it do a load and if it's ok take him a cheque straight away

ARW · Oct 18, 2017

This annoys me, it's your cash, it's your decision, go and make your own judgement, it's a second hand machine, always a risk, that's why it's cheaper than new.
If you want insurance then spend more for new with warranty, or spend less and run the risk of repairs

Exfarmer · Oct 18, 2017

Sold as seen from a dealer means just that, anything that could be seen , ie large cracks poor paint , bits missing , there is no comeback.
For a dealer that is the limit anything you could not test, ie the pump has to work at least when it leaves the dealer and a limited warranty can be expected.
For a private sale if you want no comeback you should state any faults you know, so if the pump is shot the buyer can comeback if it is obvious you knew it but did not declare it

Adam@Rumen · Oct 18, 2017

A dealership doesn't have to offer a warranty but any major unexpected problems within a reasonable amount of time would come under the sales of goods act.

I believe buying privately you don't have this protection, but the seller must not lie to you or make false claims.

Dave W · Oct 18, 2017

Ffs just write the cheque out. If it’s in a main dealers at 3yr old it will work. If it didn’t it would be in Cambridge by now.

bravheart · Oct 19, 2017

Bought a machine from a main dealers yard recently, had been there a while and think he was needing shot of it. Anyhow wouldn't stand by it at all so had it hitched onto his tractor and run up to speed in his yard. When the invoice came in it specifically stated it had been tried in the yard and no further warranty was offered or given.
Quite shallow really your word is obviously not your bond anymore, makes me trust him less now.

Oh Deere · Oct 19, 2017

This works both ways.
Having tried the said machine in his yard with his tractor and negotiated a very good deal in your favour , do you think its fair to ring him up in a weeks time because one of the indicators doesnt work.
We sell machinery all over the country and yes we use the sold as seen term on machinery that is going out of the area mainly because we cannot look after a tractor that is 600 miles away.
We also discuss this with the new owner and usually offer 3 months warranty on a second hand tractor with the discretion on my behalf that if something major was to go wrong with a machine then we have the rights to refund the money and have the machine back. We have never had to do this yet as where very carefull to send machinery out to a high standard as in my mind its easier to fix something in my yard than in a customers which is 3 hours away.
As for the above machine if the indicator stopped working in a months time then we would charging for the repair .
If the pump blew up then we would replace free of charge if that makes sense

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