Don't often agree with you but on this one your spot on
British farmers some of the most inefficient in the world!!!?
- Thread starter JCfarmer
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- Lincolnshire
Its an aside, but I never really understood what neutral detergent fibre (NDF) was as mentioned in AHDB literature on formulating beef rations despite reading it a few times. They don't seem to stock it at Mole Valley. These terms are bandied about in literature meant to help farmers but I find some of it incomprehensible and have had better results just going on what looks and feels right. The stock usually tell you what they think if the ration.
I was looking at some old wartime literature about feeding cattle the other day, and the clarity and simplicity of it was like nothing we see today. When needs must, it can be done, but we seem to have lost that knack or its deliberately made difficult to keep advisers in a job.
I was looking at some old wartime literature about feeding cattle the other day, and the clarity and simplicity of it was like nothing we see today. When needs must, it can be done, but we seem to have lost that knack or its deliberately made difficult to keep advisers in a job.
robo
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- northamptonshire
so we are inefficient im not worried. just pop and see how my carrilion shares are doing
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- Warwickshire
It's a f**king insult
I don't blame David Gregory at the BBC, I blame AHDB
Cattle for example, how can you be efficient when you are fighting a disease that is rife in protected badgers.
Arable, we could reduce chemical usage if we could embrace GM technology. But no f**king chance thanks to the Daily Mail
I don't blame David Gregory at the BBC, I blame AHDB
Cattle for example, how can you be efficient when you are fighting a disease that is rife in protected badgers.
Arable, we could reduce chemical usage if we could embrace GM technology. But no f**king chance thanks to the Daily Mail
gone up the hill
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- Devon
you can tell them that on the 31st
No way they would agree to the levy becoming voluntary because they know full well given how they waste it that 90% of farmers would stop paying it overnight!
Paying the levy is akin to taking a fiver out of your wallet for every bullock you sell and setting light to it with a match such is the way the AHDB are wasting most of our levy money.
If the AHDB were paid on results most of the staff would be out of a job ( handful of staff in the AHDB B+L section are worth their wages and one of them is the top export bloke we chatted to last year.
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- Darlington
I am not a stock farmer but surely, You have a GPS receiver on every animal that steers it to the next blade of grass efficiently in the shortest straight line,,,Don`t you? If not you are not efficient at spending 10`s of thousands (that you have not got) on kit for little return
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- Lincolnshire
And banning neonics will take us back to the 1970's with the sugar beet. Totally agree with your post.
Out of season discount, very efficient and organised.I've just bought some new Haybob tines. Therefore, I am efficient.
- Location
- East Sussex
I am not a stock farmer but surely, You have a GPS receiver on every animal that steers it to the next blade of grass efficiently in the shortest straight line,,,Don`t you? If not you are not efficient at spending 10`s of thousands (that you have not got) on kit for little return
Got too many pylons round here for that.
former farmer
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- Worcestershire
I must have seen it on a US website somewhere about the difference increased yields of wheat and corn.
As best I remember average corn yields have risen by almost 75% over the past 25years, whereas their wheat yield increases have been barely 10%. Corn growing is huge business in the US.
Contrast this with the increased wheat yield in Britain. Would this be up by 8-10% over the past 25 years?
When you compare the "efficiency" British Agriculture with others this is surely a major factor.
As best I remember average corn yields have risen by almost 75% over the past 25years, whereas their wheat yield increases have been barely 10%. Corn growing is huge business in the US.
Contrast this with the increased wheat yield in Britain. Would this be up by 8-10% over the past 25 years?
When you compare the "efficiency" British Agriculture with others this is surely a major factor.
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- sw scotland
Define efficiency in farming. Would probably not involve lots of technology and fancy metal.
On holiday in Germany I saw zero grazing on land you could barely walk across. Surely more efficient to just graze it.
On holiday in Germany I saw zero grazing on land you could barely walk across. Surely more efficient to just graze it.
Cheeky beggars, I bought the daughter some new overalls just the other day.
ollie989898
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Can someone please define what this 'inefficient' thing is. I see it mentioned a lot, it remains a mystery to me as to what the heck the piece of terminology actually refers to?
Corn yields have improved mind because there potential for growth was there. A lot of money has been pushed into new breeding, fertilisation and irrigation and the like, big overall structural changes. Not only that but it is a huge crop internationally and so there is obvious carryover where investments can be spread over a very large area geographically and in other markets. I'm not sure it is a fair comparison with UK type feed wheat as it's quite a high-input crop compared to corn and rice.
Corn yields have improved mind because there potential for growth was there. A lot of money has been pushed into new breeding, fertilisation and irrigation and the like, big overall structural changes. Not only that but it is a huge crop internationally and so there is obvious carryover where investments can be spread over a very large area geographically and in other markets. I'm not sure it is a fair comparison with UK type feed wheat as it's quite a high-input crop compared to corn and rice.
about the same then
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
What do people want from farmers?
Efficient food production at global market prices?
Or environmental goods that don’t pay their way?
Efficient food production at global market prices?
Or environmental goods that don’t pay their way?
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Can someone tell me how AHDB have made any efficiency gains in farming in the time they have existed?
Are AHDB the most efficient organisation going to be able to help others?
Remind me how many farms AHDB run to show their theory in practice?
I’d suggest that farmers are more efficient than the AHDB....and the majority of other industries too! There aren’t many that could do what farmers do on the budget allowable.
Furthermore, is this about being efficient....or becoming more efficient? Other countries may have made more yield increases etc....but does that mean they are now more efficient than UK....or just more efficient than they were before?