how on earth do you make your figures work? a good man costs £30k per year when everything is factored in???????? a good man will cost you closer to £60k when everything is factored in!!!
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A good man earns £30k /year!
Then Nest scheme, national insurance, training etc etc you'll soon be at £50-60k as Rob says.
Speedstar
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do it spec for spec & with a 5 year warranty or 7000 hours then then tell me
Yes I changed a 828 for a 6250r. And not been disappointed at all. Had it new in March 18, it’s just coming up to 2200 hours and been good as! Service cost half if not a bit more then a 828, the reliability had been good, the same if not slightly less fuel then the 828. Nice tractor and go’s like a rocket! Well so impressed with it I bought another one with we had delivered on the 3rd of March this year and just coming turned 662 hours with no problems
Tompkins
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- NE Somerset
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- Huntingdon, UK
Just had an email through advertising a job, £35-£40k starting salary plus accommodation. Seems to be the norm, some include vehicle and other perks as well.
All self employed on £14/hour flat rate. It would be slightly more as we pay for the ongoing training but there’s no holiday pay or pensions etc.
If you’ve got tractor drivers costing £60,000 per year it’s time to get the contractors in as tractor and man per hour will be a lot cheaper and you turn them on and off as required. I know managers of 2000ac root and combinable crop units on £40,000 per year plus a house (no bills) and work vehicle.
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- Huntingdon, UK
And what do you think the contractor pays his staff? Magic beans?
Obviously not but the contractor will be costing that man across many more acres than an individual farm. Hope that makes more sense.
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- South wales
But the farm Won’t be just paying a man to drive a tractor full time either and if it does then hiring a tractor and man in full time would soon out cost just the man
All I know is that our tractors cost us for example £7/hour depreciation, £1.50/hour insurance, average of £8.50/hour in fuel, £1.50/hour service and then £14/hour labour. Repairs generally don’t happen due to a change policy. So we are £32.40/hour.
If the self employed man is sweeping the yard it costs us £14/hour. If they are in the workshop it’s £14/hour.
Hiring in a tractor and man isn’t full time though is it as they would only be there when there was field work to do so on a combinable crop farm they won’t be needed November to February thus saving 4 months of labour costs and that’s without taking into account fixed cost saving such as tractor depreciation. In my experience contractors or contract farmers are hard to beat on costs.
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- South wales
The point I was making in a round about way is you have an employee all year round for the wage posted above by others not just when you need an arse on the seat. Obviously if you don’t need that man then contractors or self employed is the answer
The point I was making in a round about way is you have an employee all year round for the wage posted above by others not just when you need an arse on the seat. Obviously if you don’t need that man then contractors or self employed is the answer
For a guy to cost us £50,000 per year he would need to do over 3500 hours of work. That’s nearly 70 hours every single week. My original query was about decent tractor drivers earning up to £60,000 per year. Anybody paying that kind of money to a steering wheel attendant is earning to much money in the first place. As already mentioned I know managers on £40,000 plus house plus car.
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- Huntingdon, UK
They aren’t earning £60,000 a year. They’re earning £12-14 an hour, plus holiday, NI, nest, training etc. Your self employed men are incredibly cheap, our men are charged out at £17 an hour. You’re either very lucky to get good men for that money, or they aren’t good men.
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- Worcestershire
Things are changing food is still been imported soon things will break for us farmers. New back window on my tractor 1k replacement I fairly sure everything’s gone completely made
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- mid cornwall
Heck! Wish I could get £12-14 self employed!
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- South wales
Wait for everyone to call you a mug for working for less
if you tried charging that around here you’d be on a fast track to the dole queue
pdagriservices
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I thought £12 would be the standard for a mediocre self employed guy they were getting that around me 15 years ago I would imagine £14 the norm now!
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