Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

livestock 1 · Sep 13, 2020

JSmith said:
Just started thread, all welcome, with or without a certificate

Might give it a miss thanks all the same. It works to stop it spreading they agree with but I’m wrong for mentioning such a thing
Thanks but no thanks

Anymulewilldo · Sep 13, 2020

Northern territory said:
Why the hell would anyone want to shear them twice when wool is for nothing. Handling and cost can’t be worth it on lambs. Get the bit about growth but if you are storing all winter is it worth it.

If you winter away it's brilliant too have them all sheared. Can't get hung up on brambles or thorns with no wool!!

Shebb90 · Sep 13, 2020

Ceri said:
Mm very interesting....... I do wonder. We do our lambs twice & we don't

Honestly............ I think we're at the start of a golden age for all types of farming.

I been thinking about it alot lately, and I really think good times are here to stay. Climate change will f**k us in the end but in the near future (our life time) it will be the making of us. Look at the droughts & fires in the southern hemisphere the floods & unpredictable weather in the northern hemisphere etc. The Issue of a piece of paper that is a trade deal is absolutely insignificant compared to the might of the huge machine that is the hunger of the human race. We are selfish greedy creatures and will get our food & there is plenty of mouths to make sure this continues to be the case. Veganisum is merely a fad by a v v v v v v small minority & will blend into insignificance & hunger will overcome any single think all the time....
#goldenageishere

Thing is price hasn't really got too where it was when this price tracker started for beef and it beginning to drop, yes lambs have been very good but only where they should be for year 2020. But yes better than where it was but I anit too excited by price at the moment when you look bills you got to pay.

ford4000 · Sep 13, 2020

livestock 1 said:
So you are another one that has confessed on here to know everything. A dangerous place for your mind to be. I can’t imagine how anyone can get into that train of thought. As far as I’m concerned every day is another day to learn and I will never get to the bottom of all of the best answers I will run out of time long before that.
You must obviously think that you want a pat on the back for shifting it on from your flock twice.
You also must think that I on the other hand have never achieved this over the many years of dealing with CODD
You also assume that I don’t have multiple flocks to deal with.
I’m not knocking your day course one bit nor do I pretend to know more about this subject than you do. However I have to say that I don’t believe your day course can replace the years of gathering vet advice and advice from many others in the industry and actually dealing with it.
When you learn about CODD you will find out that the biggest issue is transmission of the disease. Formalin does stop the transmission from sheep to sheep which is the main problem. It’s much easier to deal with a small number of sheep showing symptoms of it than to be treating a high percentage of very lame sheep.
What did your course tell you?

Poorbuthappy said:
Where does @ford4000 say he knows it all, or isn't still learning?
What about you?
You were the one who told him to go back to school so he rose to your challenge
And the Liverpool trial work was a bit more than just his day course - working with the leading vet on the subject currently.

You make a valid point about formalin helping to stop transmission, but he called you out on your simplistic assertion that codd is sorted with double strength formalin.

Spot on Poorbuthappy, first he insinuates I don't know anything and should go back to school.... Now I'm a know it all!! Can't win

[PDF] Towards a greater understanding of contagious ovine digital dermatitis (CODD): an epidemiological approach | Semantic Scholar

Semantic Scholar extracted view of "Towards a greater understanding of contagious ovine digital dermatitis (CODD): an epidemiological approach" by J. Angell

www.semanticscholar.org

Here's the 370ish pages of research on the matter for you Livestock 1, you can read it at your leisure, then phone up the author and tell him it's all a waste of time time, all anyone needs is double strength formalin

livestock 1 · Sep 13, 2020

ford4000 said:
Spot on Poorbuthappy, first he insinuates I don't know anything and should go back to school.... Now I'm a know it all!! Can't win

[PDF] Towards a greater understanding of contagious ovine digital dermatitis (CODD): an epidemiological approach | Semantic Scholar

Semantic Scholar extracted view of "Towards a greater understanding of contagious ovine digital dermatitis (CODD): an epidemiological approach" by J. Angell

www.semanticscholar.org

Here's the 370ish pages of research on the matter for you Livestock 1, you can read it at your leisure, then phone up the author and tell him it's all a waste of time time, all anyone needs is double strength formalin

Can’t even get the thread right

ford4000 · Sep 13, 2020

Back to the price tracker, I had a £125 for lambs in market on Thursday!!!! OK there was only 2....and they did weigh 60kg.....

Tup lambs 45kg made £91 and 41kg females £89.50
Down a bit, but Cant complain for September!!

Skintagain · Sep 13, 2020

What price would nice Cheviot gimmer lambs be? 35-40 kg to run on. Thinking of buying a few

Purli R · Sep 13, 2020

@dlm said:
Just unloaded second wagon of lambs bought from bentham today. I was up 6 quid which on the year was thrilled with. Some seriously good sheep/runs in there. A booth, an andrew brown, hutchinson, a pye, many many more. Serious power, good skins heads. Good price i admit but when you bought them at last years prices and sold a decent store lamb at good money and made over 40 profit selling the shearling are they so dear compared to other things? Big talking point was a big seller called richard hargreaves. He got third in show with lambs shown beautifully, second pen same, but rest of run all clipped, looked powerful things, surely will go on better for buyer, less expense and work for him. Didnt seem to effect his trade, i would think had one of highest averages. Personally i would think a lot of vendors seeing his trade, and big interest from buyers will do the same next year?? Think he did around 450, and 9500 in sale roughly? I would be surprised if there isnt over 1200 done next year

Sounds like you done your job well,think overall av was up £35

Yes Hargreaves family really on the ball with the sheep job,not so much keeping up with the jones"s as keeping up with the Hargreaves"s.Takes a brave man to turn up with 400 clipped lambs on one day,least it would get everyone to look at them! Good luck to him,he has more clipps for Hawes on tuesday.

sheepwise · Sep 13, 2020

primmiemoo said:
My late father was selling lambs for £100 apiece ... in 1974.

Top price for our equivalent sold most recently was £104 and some pennies apiece.

Sobering stuff, particularly when the benchmarking of COP is factored in.

What kind of lambs was he selling for £100 in 1974? Find it a bit hard to believe to be honest.

Anymulewilldo · Sep 14, 2020

Skintagain said:
What price would nice Cheviot gimmer lambs be? 35-40 kg to run on. Thinking of buying a few

The ones I've seen so far have been £110+ for a smart clean lamb that is

Anymulewilldo · Sep 14, 2020

Purli R said:
Sounds like you done your job well,think overall av was up £35 Yes Hargreaves family really on the ball with the sheep job,not so much keeping up with the jones"s as keeping up with the Hargreaves"s.Takes a brave man to turn up with 400 clipped lambs on one day,least it would get everyone to look at them! Good luck to him,he has more clipps for Hawes on tuesday.

From what I've been told the averages are well up due to a massive increase in demand for smart running lambs. Don't get me wrong, demand for tuppers was up but not too the same tune as the runners!

aangus · Sep 14, 2020

Skintagain said:
What price would nice Cheviot gimmer lambs be? 35-40 kg to run on. Thinking of buying a few

Get yourself to Lockerbie on Wednesday, know a lad that will have 60 in they have come of a hard place and will alter, know the fella that buys his second pen every year

LAMBCHOPS · Sep 14, 2020

Anymulewilldo said:
From what I've been told the averages are well up due to a massive increase in demand for smart running lambs. Don't get me wrong, demand for tuppers was up but not too the same tune as the runners!

Gimmers you mean dry ewe lambs? If there is more demand that means there will be less available in the spring in the fat keeping the trade up.The yearling ewe trade this autumn has put a buzz back in the sheep job and shifted it all up 15/20 a head. The future of the short term store trade depends on whether or not we As farmers talk the trade down due to brexit. This happened last year and buyers like me had the benefit as the price did not need to be so low but it was as it was talked down. We all need a share of the cake and this year if we hold a steady ship I am happy to pitch in at a higher price to start with. Store lamb buyers are margin men but the producer and future need a boost as the raw product won't be there so don't talk the trade down!! Anybody disagree?? Protein is also short due to the pandemic in the Chinese pig industry which have redirected world supplies away from the UK. I am going out this morning as an optimist!!

Skintagain · Sep 14, 2020

Anymulewilldo said:
The ones I've seen so far have been £110+ for a smart clean lamb that is

I might wait until next year then!

Mc115reed · Sep 14, 2020

20 lambs dropped in at Bakewell this morning weighed 35kg yesterday and 36.5kg today and who said market scales are rigged?

Jerry · Sep 14, 2020

Couple pens into Exeter this morning.

46.5kg and 42.5kg.

Fingers crossed now!

Anymulewilldo · Sep 14, 2020

Skintagain said:
I might wait until next year then!

I had just given 126 for nice cheviot Mules and the fellas pure cheviots came in and made £110. They were smart lambs but not very big!

Shebb90 · Sep 14, 2020

Jerry said:
Couple pens into Exeter this morning.

46.5kg and 42.5kg.

Fingers crossed now!

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Many in?

Top Tip. · Sep 14, 2020

Skintagain said:
What price would nice Cheviot gimmer lambs be? 35-40 kg to run on. Thinking of buying a few

The best Cheviot ewe lambs in Dingwall on Thursday were £82 and the run of the good ewe lambs was £70–£80 . I know someone who bought a cracking pen for £70. @Macsky

Jerry · Sep 14, 2020

Shebb90 said:
Many in?

No. Not when I dropped off.

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