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som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
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somerset
You are contradicting yourself, on one post you say you can remember why you stopped wintering cattle on kale, then say you have cows out which you have blamed for two cows going lame.

Your apparent casual attitude to having to put an animal down (heading for the lead injection) does you no favours either.

TBH for some reason you seem more concerned with being "fully legally protected" (I really have no idea what you mean by this phrase) than animal welfare and securing a beast's recovery.

I'm sure you are concerned about the welfare of your stock, but the way you put it across is not good.
we stopped feeding kale all winter back in 78, when we built a nice big shed, it was for our convenience then, the next generation trying it now', but i don't really approve, to muddy.
If you had read the next post, those two cows were autumn calvers, and most certainly not on kale, also made it clear, if any care look 'wrong' outside, they are brought in and treated. I try to use other words than shooting, because you never know who is 'looking'.
The 'fully legally protected', shows you haven't been targeted yet, by the veg/vegan lot, if you are ever unlucky to be so, that phrase, will become of the utmost importance, if you have followed the protocol, as we now do, unless you have done something incredibly stupid, you cannot be successfully prosecuted, what we call welfare, and what they call cruelty, is very close, and they have a very good way of showing 'a case', from the worst possible angle.
Having experienced it, and passing rt/min inspections, to their complete satisfaction, we have the protocol, for anything other than minor, isolate, treat, if no obvious response in 48 hrs, vet advice, if no obvious improvement, we shoot, dead simple. If you follow that, they cannot argue, and yes, we shoot a lot quicker than we would like, we never knew someone was creeping around, when we were not about, and it took her 9mths to find something, that looked bad, but actually wasn't, as rt and min vets agreed.
I only post to warn farmers what can very easily happen, personally i'd rather 'forget'.
 
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Manney

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Penzance
Came out to a down cow this morning. Not sure what has happened to her but she is a bit battered, bruised and hurt her leg. She is now in a straw pen and eating. Nothing worse than a down cow, it really gets to me.

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Came out to a down cow this morning. Not sure what has happened to her but she is a bit battered, bruised and hurt her leg. She is now in a straw pen and eating. Nothing worse than a down cow, it really gets to me.

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Do you have a hip hoist? I always try and get them standing or at least switch sides, nothing better than keeping the blood flowing, unless she sulks when you lift her, that's really annoying
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Came out to a down cow this morning. Not sure what has happened to her but she is a bit battered, bruised and hurt her leg. She is now in a straw pen and eating. Nothing worse than a down cow, it really gets to me.

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For an unknown downer cow, not freshly calved vet check to make sure hips or legs not broken.

We had a cow down in cubicles.
Rang vet and she diagnosed she broke her hip.
 

Ducati899

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Location
north dorset
had to wait as vets were'nt 100% sure with our tb history if it was just a retest on single cow.

I rang up yesterday as we still hadn’t heard anything from when we read the test on the 8th,confirmed cause of history it’s just the one to retest but no movements,thankfully we were selling all beef calves up until Christmas so had a good run
 

sidjon

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Location
EXMOOR
I rang up yesterday as we still hadn’t heard anything from when we read the test on the 8th,confirmed cause of history it’s just the one to retest but no movements,thankfully we were selling all beef calves up until Christmas so had a good run
Ours is booked in for 16th of March, if she passes wouldn't give us to much bother as sell calves at month old , so fingers crossed 😬
 

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