Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Location
Devon
No actually I was 500 quads down on normal from my own crops and saw it coming so bought in June. Still short though so cattle will get dirty. Point being, no one with any common sense would wait until lambing was imminent before picking up the phone and ordering straw so I don’t believe price rises now will affect the economics of the job for many folks. Lamb price is very good, so it should be, we produce an excellent product at great risk and expense. Just enjoy it while it lasts instead of moaning and pleading poverty all the time, it’s like farmers only have one setting sometimes, moan!
It’s the store cattle mans turn next, there’ll be a rush for new loader tractors before the end of March.

You will be in for a bit of a shock come next harvest ref straw prices i sadly fear!!

And given the amount of straw lorry's on the road currently i would guess that a lot of people have put off ordering extra straw untill they needed it.!

No one is pleading poverty or moaning, some of us are just stating facts ref increased costs.
 
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Location
Devon
Not if you finish them out on grass

You will not finish Dec/Jan born lambs off grass alone unless you keep them for a lot longer than you should be doing and then they will have gone stale anyway and be devalued in price.

I totally agree about end of March/ April etc born lambs being able to be finished off grass but of course no end of of these lambs still end up seeing the cake feeder after Xmas!
 

Celt83

Member
Livestock Farmer
No silage just hay, analaysed at 12me...
the twins came in 1 week before lambing and the singles came in 2 days before the due date and I wished I’d left them outside longer with no cake at all Iv been having lambs the size of calves ... run them on good dry ground that keeps them fit all winter and they stay fit all lambing im just feeding a maintenance diet not trying too make them grow because they’ve been paddling round in sh!t all winter and are lean... I did try too cut feed out all together 2 years ago and just put blocks out... they didn’t milk for sh!t and ate them like sweets costing a fortune for no gain at all
Totally agree with you about the blocks, last year I had a brainwave to replace expensive hp soya with protein blocks, big mistake! They liked them like lollipops and it cost me nearly £700/t before I finally woke up!

As for your hay at 12ME what do you feed it to? The starship Enterprise!! Coz that must be rocket fuel! The best hay we managed was 9ME that's why my old man finally went over to silage making.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
Totally agree with you about the blocks, last year I had a brainwave to replace expensive hp soya with protein blocks, big mistake! They liked them like lollipops and it cost me nearly £700/t before I finally woke up!

As for your hay at 12ME what do you feed it to? The starship Enterprise!! Coz that must be rocket fuel! The best hay we managed was 9ME that's why my old man finally went over to silage making.
We can’t make hay down here though and only 2-3 summers in the last 20 years have been good enough for hay. In Middle England they would have had 2-3 summers where they couldn’t make hay. They don’t grow crops of grass like we can though Celt with few farmers doing a second cut and fewer doing a third, fourth and I don’t think they’ve ever done fifth. I worked not far from mc115 12-13 years ago so know the area well
 

Celt83

Member
Livestock Farmer
We can’t make hay down here though and only 2-3 summers in the last 20 years have been good enough for hay. In Middle England they would have had 2-3 summers where they couldn’t make hay. They don’t grow crops of grass like we can though Celt with few farmers doing a second cut and fewer doing a third, fourth and I don’t think they’ve ever done fifth. I worked not far from mc115 12-13 years ago so know the area well
Fair point Al, I was just wondering if hay would yield that much mj of energy?

As you say unheard of down here, one of my best analysts was of a 2019 July 4th cut at 12.5ME and 17%CP that would be one of the best cuts we've made. I wish they were all like that but we've had some stinkers as well!
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Fair point Al, I was just wondering if hay would yield that much mj of energy?

As you say unheard of down here, one of my best analysts was of a 2019 July 4th cut at 12.5ME and 17%CP that would be one of the best cuts we've made. I wish they were all like that but we've had some stinkers as well!

I Stand corrected just dug out the analysis it’s 10.6[emoji28] ... was nearly wrapped because I was worried it was too fresh but seems too have stored fine, all new seeds also it’s a bit stalky really could do with going through a straw blower or something too make it more palatable
 
Location
Kent
Ashford this morning
 

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