"Acorn Yard" Origin of field name ?

Old Boar · Sep 5, 2021

Maybe as simple as someone wrote down the name on a map, A corn yard, and then the next person just joined the two together?

There is a field here called, translated from Welsh, leeches field. It is a trifle damp.

Muddyroads · Sep 5, 2021

Exfarmer said:
I bet it was very poor land

Runs from the local pub to river meadows, so pretty fertile.

JSmith · Sep 5, 2021

Just got some ground back that my old man used to farm for sixty years until it was snatched back by the landlord over twenty years ago! Only me an the old boy who used to work for us know the original names of the fields, when the paper work came through it just said “ land known as the banks” it’s about six different fields named individually, to us any way!! Dad passed away last year before I got it back, been trying for twenty years, went on there the day I signed the agreement to the highest spot looking back a cross 300 acres which we used to farm towards our farmstead!! Bought some child hood memories back I can tell you, the field/hill is called “Piccadilly”, no idea why!! Took the kids up there today an had a picnic parked in the spot where he used to sit with me!

goodevans · Sep 5, 2021

Muddyroads said:
Runs from the local pub to river meadows, so pretty fertile.

Sounds like the pub sold dodgy scrumpy and the meadows were covered in brambles

Velocette · Sep 5, 2021

Not far from me is a pub called "The Flappit" and the area around it is also called that. It turns out that at the side of the couple of houses there are some depressions in a field which were the holes or "pits" that tanners used to put flayed hides in, immersed in some liquid, probably urine, at the start of the tanning process. Probably its a good job that they were not too close to many people !

Exfarmer · Sep 5, 2021

We used to own a field called cozeath in the 14th century map the land was described as Cow Heath. It was then about 45 acres and when we bought it it was 4 separate pieces
It is now reunited to its old size before the enclosures

Cab-over Pete · Sep 5, 2021

Water Wheel said:
We have a small one acre field at the end of the drive called "Acorn Yard" on the old Tithe map any suggestions as to the origin of the name?

We have planning for a retirement bungalow there so I want to keep the name and call it Acorn Yard but I'm being overruled by OH who says she will not live in a yard!

If the field is named Acorn Yard and you’re going go to build a house in it, then I’m afraid your wife will be living in a yard whether she likes it or not!

So maybe call the house something else and have the address as, maybe

(House name)
Acorn Yard
Whatever Farm
Etc
Etc.
postcode.

Ffermer Bach · Sep 5, 2021

Old Boar said:
Maybe as simple as someone wrote down the name on a map, A corn yard, and then the next person just joined the two together?

There is a field here called, translated from Welsh, leeches field. It is a trifle damp.

what is that in Welsh?

renewablejohn · Sep 6, 2021

Water Wheel said:
The health spring is nearly a mile away and is sulphurous , as was the borehole we drilled, only aware of a foul smelling sulphurous spring on the farm, not aware of any brine, its supposedly 80+ meters down.

Looking back through old maps to 1839 gives no clues to name or evidence of a paved/ cobbled area.

The field is at the end of the drive, been a farm here forever, so it could have been used for stray stock, or stock being sent off, but thoughts are just wild guesses.

Spring might be sulphrous now but probably not have been two centuries ago. Its on the same brine system as Middlewich and Northwich.

Old Boar · Sep 6, 2021

Ffermer Bach said:
what is that in Welsh?

parc gelod

ShooTa · Sep 6, 2021

we have an Ewr pylle - which is a wet field/spring field..

Ffermer Bach · Sep 6, 2021

ShooTa said:
we have an Ewr pylle - which is a wet field/spring field..

I thought spring field is Cae Ffynnon and isn't Cae Waun wet field? Round here people say Ca instead of Cae (I am a Welsh learner)

Tubbylew · Sep 7, 2021

Any one able to translate "tyn yr llyn" also "cae pwlch"?

Ffermer Bach · Sep 7, 2021

Tubbylew said:
Any one able to translate "tyn yr llyn" also "cae pwlch"

Cae Pwlch pool field possibly?

Ffermer Bach · Sep 7, 2021

Ffermer Bach said:
Cae Pwlch pool field possibly?

my daughter says it means gap

ShooTa · Sep 7, 2021

Ffermer Bach said:
I thought spring field is Cae Ffynnon and isn't Cae Waun wet field? Round here people say Ca instead of Cae (I am a Welsh learner)

im a very poor laxed learner - it was translated for me by a friend...
~all resubmitions of correct translations appreciated

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Ffermer Bach · Sep 7, 2021

ShooTa said:
im a very poor laxed learner - it was translated for me by a friend...
~all resubmitions of correct translations appreciated

for those in wales... find your own tithe map overlay.

Welsh Tithe Maps - Home

Search the Tithe Maps of Wales - over 300,000 entries and accompanying apportionment documents using original and present-day maps

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There are threads on here for different words for farming things in English, great changes over different parts of the country, so why would Welsh be any different, so what people may call something here, could be completely different where you are. My neighbour used to drive a lorry, he told me he went up to North Wales to pick up some slate, and had to ask directions, in the end he asked the person, do you speak English? He said that although Welsh is his first language, he had no clue what they were saying!

Wurzeetoo · Sep 7, 2021

Muddyroads said:
I’d quite like to know the derivation of the name of the footpath that leads from here to the village: Scratcharse Lane

Muddyroads said:
Well that complements the scratchyface Lane I used to live on

pycoed · Sep 7, 2021

Tubbylew said:
Any one able to translate "tyn yr llyn" also "cae pwlch"?

Ty'n yr llyn Is " house in the lake" - must be a damp spot?
Cae is field & "bwlch" is gap or pass , so perhaps it's between two hills?

Tubbylew · Sep 7, 2021

pycoed said:
Ty'n yr llyn Is " house in the lake" - must be a damp spot?
Cae is field & "bwlch" is gap or pass , so perhaps it's between two hills?

Yeah that would explain a lot

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