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- north norfolk
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100,000 pigs to be destroyed
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Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
How come no labour shortage processing beef and lamb ?
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
That was asked earlier and in fact AHDB came back saying that was starting to show problems also
Pork is produced and sold at a very low cost. The cost to process relative to the value of the product is therefore higher. I imagine there is probably least return on it and in a workforce shortage labour will be focussed on the more profitable business like lamb and beef.
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- Bedfordshire
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
28000 sows going out ; potentially a lot more . Some suggest 10% of the National Herd
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Are pork products short supply and reduced in price in the shops ?
When was there last, an advert seen on the telly for a "kosher" pork sausage, or other pig product?
Last I can vaguely remember was for DANISH BACON. And that seems to have been years ago.
Never seen one on social media.
Perhaps the Hairy Bikers etc are deemed sufficient?
Last I can vaguely remember was for DANISH BACON. And that seems to have been years ago.
Never seen one on social media.
Perhaps the Hairy Bikers etc are deemed sufficient?
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- Cumbria
That is true, historically there was a four year ‘pig cycle’ because the reproductive biology of a pig means that supply of pork can change - both ways very rapidly, it made some canny pig farmers very rich and some perfectly decent farmers very poor.
The difference today is that the current ‘bust’ is largely driven by a quite sinister political ideology that doesn’t want low paid migrant workers in the country or the dirty low value jobs they do. As someone rightly pointed out earlier we should all be very worried about this situation because we will be next. Several Tory policy wonks have openly stated that the uk should not be farming and we should follow the economic model of Singapore.
welshfarming
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Exactly, if there is pig culling then there's no Government support program for on farm euthenasia, and I would have expected a few pig farmers on here to have said they are at the point where they need to cull for welfare. I farm sheep, no problem with local slaughterhouse as the slaughterman who's Polish has stayed (don't dare to ask, he gives me the heeby jeebies) . If I was going to forced into culling my pigs, I would be taking a few of them upto Downing Street and culling them on the doorstep there, that would get some support for the pig farming community.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Good luck to them , 70
Million and growing will be bad to feed on imports alone .
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
The numbers I'm hearing looming in the next week makes me very sad and depressed. Truly shocking and I get very angry with any politician making light of the situation. It's bad enough with the baffoon in Number 10 but when you get George Eustice refusing to come on to the Radio this morning and just regurgitating a press release talking about monitoring the situation makes me quite irate and ill
Farrowing room staff understandably not wanting to cull newborn piglets . They should bring the double breasted suited politician and give him the tools and a pen of a 1,000 weaners and see how she/ he likes it
This crosses all species now and Boris Johnson making light of this tragedy for animal welfare and food waste should touch the nerve of every livestock farmer . Every one .
Farrowing room staff understandably not wanting to cull newborn piglets . They should bring the double breasted suited politician and give him the tools and a pen of a 1,000 weaners and see how she/ he likes it
This crosses all species now and Boris Johnson making light of this tragedy for animal welfare and food waste should touch the nerve of every livestock farmer . Every one .
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- East Sussex
There was this campaign in the 80s, which was likely responsible for the biggest uptake in vegetarianism in living memory.
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- Lincolnshire
Perhaps if all the small local abbattoirs (3 in our town, now none) hadn't been closed because they couldnt meet EU directives then we would be in a more resilient position now. The big corporate outfits couldn't see these small independents closed fast enough, wiping out their competition.
Problem is the bigger they are the harder they fall. I know this doesn't get us out of the present mess but there has been greed and short termism at every level in the build up to this.
We desperately need abbatoir staff now though. No question about that, and it really ought to be a top priority for the government in its immigration management role - that's if there are actually hoards of abbattoir workers waiting on the continent to come here, which actually I doubt there are. Lack of manual labour is an EU wide problem that's been been building for years. Maybe we should be looking to the commonwealth. Corporate businesses aren't blameless in this mess either.
Problem is the bigger they are the harder they fall. I know this doesn't get us out of the present mess but there has been greed and short termism at every level in the build up to this.
We desperately need abbatoir staff now though. No question about that, and it really ought to be a top priority for the government in its immigration management role - that's if there are actually hoards of abbattoir workers waiting on the continent to come here, which actually I doubt there are. Lack of manual labour is an EU wide problem that's been been building for years. Maybe we should be looking to the commonwealth. Corporate businesses aren't blameless in this mess either.