Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

neilo · Dec 24, 2021

livestock 1 said:
Selling mules as a general rule through the live ring is easier after February than before. Too many white faced lambs about now so the mule ends up discounted. Once the numbers tighten then they are happy to pay a decent price for them but not so keen early on. The big framed Leicester tups often get lambs that are hard to flesh on their backs which buyers are often afraid of. If you check such like types on their tails as well as their backs you can see they are fine but not the best for the live ring. These lambs like to grow so every now and again they take a growth spurt rather than fattening and if you carried on with some of them they would end up massive before everyone considered they were properly finished on their backs. DW doesn’t discriminate these types. Horses for courses I suppose

That poorer ko% that is reflected in the live market price is already factored into the money received dw.

The worst part of the live mart is when they assume everything with a woolly head is going to be overfat, etc, regardless of the reality. Locally a grader goes over every lamb marking anything grossly fat or too lean. Buyers rarely put their hands on the lambs in front of them, which can vary hugely in meat yield.

lloyd · Dec 24, 2021

neilo said:
That poorer ko% that is reflected in the live market price is already factored into the money received dw.

The worst part of the live mart is when they assume everything with a woolly head is going to be overfat, etc, regardless of the reality. Locally a grader goes over every lamb marking anything grossly fat or too lean. Buyers rarely put their hands on the lambs in front of them, which can vary hugely in meat yield.

The buyers are no fools they know whose lambs have been
killing out best.They will probably be seen putting their hands
on sheep from vendors who are less regular at market ,or sell
pens which visibly look uneven.

Just because · Dec 24, 2021

bobajob said:
Hope you sent him back a link to the fertiliser and concentrate price tracker threads!!

Asked him to compare store prices we had paid for lambs year on year

Hilly · Dec 24, 2021

livestock 1 said:
Yes longtown years ago good backs on them they don’t win many beauty contests out of mules mind you!!

If you want to fatten lambs on minimal feed if any you won’t beat a Romney , and cake over £300 ton they are a very attractive option , just got some in this morning fat as butter and nothing but grass and up here .

lloyd · Dec 24, 2021

Hilly said:
If you want to fatten lambs on minimal feed if any you won’t beat a Romney , and cake over £300 ton they are a very attractive option , just got some in this morning fat as butter and nothing but grass and up here .

Have they been on clean ground with some high sugar young leys?

z.man · Dec 24, 2021

Hilly said:
If you want to fatten lambs on minimal feed if any you won’t beat a Romney , and cake over £300 ton they are a very attractive option , just got some in this morning fat as butter and nothing but grass and up here .

There is grass and grass though...... a new (good) reseed will finish one serious amount of lambs at a fraction of the price of concentrate

Hilly · Dec 24, 2021

lloyd said:
Have they been on clean ground with some high sugar young leys?

No an 8 year old silage field .

Hilly · Dec 24, 2021

z.man said:
There is grass and grass though...... a new (good) reseed will finish one serious amount of lambs at a fraction of the price of concentrate

I live 1000 ft up on a hill farm

lloyd · Dec 24, 2021

Hilly said:
No an 8 year old silage field .

8 years old good medium term ley which is clean after
Silage .Have you tried some on a fern covered hill ,sheeped to death to
compare results?

z.man · Dec 24, 2021

Hilly said:
I live 1000 ft up on a hill farm

I would get altitude sickness at that height

But there is still some well farmed farms with good grass at that height

Sheepfog · Dec 24, 2021

livestock 1 said:
Selling mules as a general rule through the live ring is easier after February than before. Too many white faced lambs about now so the mule ends up discounted. Once the numbers tighten then they are happy to pay a decent price for them but not so keen early on. The big framed Leicester tups often get lambs that are hard to flesh on their backs which buyers are often afraid of. If you check such like types on their tails as well as their backs you can see they are fine but not the best for the live ring. These lambs like to grow so every now and again they take a growth spurt rather than fattening and if you carried on with some of them they would end up massive before everyone considered they were properly finished on their backs. DW doesn’t discriminate these types. Horses for courses I suppose

That certainly seems to be a problem with the crossing type BFL. Mule lambs out of traditional type BFL are easier to finish IME.

Hilly · Dec 24, 2021

lloyd said:
8 years old good medium term ley which is clean after
Silage .Have you tried some on a fern covered hill ,sheeped to death to
compare results?

Yes I have 900 acre of that, I also have another breed on the farm that do not so near as well as the romneys and need fed !

Hilly · Dec 24, 2021

z.man said:
I would get altitude sickness at that height

But there is still some well farmed farms with good grass at that height

Romney texels , off the rough grazing . It’s the hottest tip of 2021 ! Romney s they are the future

you heard it here first bin the cake get romneys .

lloyd · Dec 24, 2021

Hilly said:
Yes I have 900 acre of that, I also have another breed on the farm that do not so near as well as the romneys and need fed !

There I was thinking it was because your an excellent farmer
but now you've spoilt the myth by saying these Romneys fatten
on anything.

Hilly · Dec 24, 2021

lloyd said:
There I was thinking it was because your an excellent farmer
but now you've spoilt the myth by saying these Romneys fatten
on anything.

Im not an exellent farmer by any means , I’m just keep trying year after year

Poorbuthappy · Dec 24, 2021

Hilly said:
View attachment 1004931 View attachment 1004932Romney texels , off the rough grazing . It’s the hottest tip of 2021 ! Romney s they are the future you heard it here first bin the cake get romneys .

Heard here first from you about 10 years ago I reckon

Hilly · Dec 24, 2021

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Poorbuthappy said:
Heard here first from you about 10 years ago I reckon

as said above I’m a trier ! Or just trying

copse · Dec 24, 2021

RPf on £6.20 for next week

Gedd · Dec 24, 2021

copse said:
RPf on £6.20 for next week

Just keep banging them in live they will have to come and buy them and compete eventually same with cattle

Northern territory · Dec 24, 2021

We moved away a bit from mules for that reason that the BFL in them is hard to flesh, especially to a Suffolk. But then you lose the prolificacy.

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