Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
I can only assume he has spontaneously combusted, maybe someone stuck something down his spout..
I hope Guthrie takes these comments in the light hearted way they are intended. He must have a pretty thick skin because he keeps coming back. Today with his sedgemoore report hopefully.
I for one appreciate his messages even if I don't agree with him because it encourages debate and it makes me think I know I'm not always right and he might be. It would be boring if we all agreed and the place wouldn't be the same without him (y)
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
But if the lambs are worth 15% more, are you not better off, less work, less feed ?
Don't know, i found them the same amount of work and ate plenty of feed. Singles don’t pay as far as im concerned really. Fixed costs make keeping the ewes too dear for them too rear singles. Too much competition for ground around here too let ewes be lazy
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
Won’t lack of intensive systems just pile more price pressure on the grass finished price though. Always said you need all systems or you will just get an overload.
We have too produce a constant supply or the buggers will import even more and kick us harder! Definitely need all systems, if we all did the same it would be crap!!
 

andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
Won’t lack of intensive systems just pile more price pressure on the grass finished price though. Always said you need all systems or you will just get an overload.
Agree , problem is to many hoggs about easter time for suck lambs to be in much demand , and im not blaming store finishers , more supermarket buyers that seem to want to kill any profitability by selling to much imported at very low cost (often at a loss £6/kg or less ), to get people through the door to buy easter eggs/ chocolate and high profit other stuff right through the new year.!
be honest the ethnic buyers are saving our ass at the moment with these heavy hoggs / culls
supermarket lamb is quite lacklustre considering work/ costs involved , and its only the weights getting a lot out of trouble
 
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Hilly

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I hope Guthrie takes these comments in the light hearted way they are intended. He must have a pretty thick skin because he keeps coming back. Today with his sedgemoore report hopefully.
I for one appreciate his messages even if I don't agree with him because it encourages debate and it makes me think I know I'm not always right and he might be. It would be boring if we all agreed and the place wouldn't be the same without him (y)
Well said, he tells it how it is but takes some flack but hes usually 100% correct .
 

mghley

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Location
Derbyshire
I hope Guthrie takes these comments in the light hearted way they are intended. He must have a pretty thick skin because he keeps coming back. Today with his sedgemoore report hopefully.
I for one appreciate his messages even if I don't agree with him because it encourages debate and it makes me think I know I'm not always right and he might be. It would be boring if we all agreed and the place wouldn't be the same without him (y)
A forum would not be a forum without differing opinions and long may that continue.
 
@gone up the hill is correct in what he says about the inputs vs returns
What I said was just really setting folks away more than anything else
@Woolless put the chart on showing Canadian agriculture returning something like 3% and that’s including other income, I realise our figures will be different but I was quoted British ag returns were 4% by Midland bank in 1997 when getting a price to borrow money. So similar theme really. What I’m getting at is there’s no where near enough return for investment, work and risk involved but being a glass half full person I will be pleased with what I get and look happy.
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
@gone up the hill is correct in what he says about the inputs vs returns
What I said was just really setting folks away more than anything else
@Woolless put the chart on showing Canadian agriculture returning something like 3% and that’s including other income, I realise our figures will be different but I was quoted British ag returns were 4% by Midland bank in 1997 when getting a price to borrow money. So similar theme really. What I’m getting at is there’s no where near enough return for investment, work and risk involved but being a glass half full person I will be pleased with what I get and look happy.
I’d hate too see when you look miserable then...
 
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