Which conventional baler?

Farmer_Joe · Aug 2, 2022

no massive budget prob looking at 2/3k absolute max

we used to have a nh hayliner 370, it was sold at a sale years ago, i believe it was reliable and made decent bales,

ive seen some old jd units and some claas and nh which is best to avoid second hand?

livestock 1 · Aug 2, 2022

Welgar or NH as a second choice

Skintagain · Aug 2, 2022

Struggle to buy a good Welger for 3k

But you would get a very good nh for that money

livestock 1 · Aug 2, 2022

Don’t buy a Claas the knotters are temperamental my Markant 60 just about had me on medication with its knotters
Claas fitter used to say if a Claas had international knotters it would be a great machine he was right

livestock 1 · Aug 2, 2022

Skintagain said:
Struggle to buy a good Welger for 3k

But you would get a very good nh for that money

Yes a good Welger is nearer 6 k unless you are lucky
NH like to wear out the packer parts but not too dear to fix pretty good baler otherwise as long as stop dog is working and kept lubricated and knotter clutch

Skintagain · Aug 2, 2022

livestock 1 said:
Yes a good Welger is nearer 6 k unless you are lucky
NH like to wear out the packer parts but not too dear to fix pretty good baler otherwise as long as stop dog is working and kept lubricated and knotter clutch

People slate nh balers but I think part of it is snobbery. welger parts are eye watering

Dave W · Aug 2, 2022

Farmer_Joe said:
no massive budget prob looking at 2/3k absolute max

we used to have a nh hayliner 370, it was sold at a sale years ago, i believe it was reliable and made decent bales,

ive seen some old jd units and some claas and nh which is best to avoid second hand?

IMO there are no bad balers. Only badly set up ones. Try to buy one in the best condition with known history.

carbonfibre farmer · Aug 2, 2022

Dave W said:
IMO there are no bad balers. Only badly set up ones. Try to buy one in the best condition with known history.

This. Many times over. Condition, work done , worn out etc etc.

They all have "quirks"

livestock 1 · Aug 2, 2022

Skintagain said:
People slate nh balers but I think part of it is snobbery. welger parts are eye watering

I always wanted a Welger but they seemed dear at sales for what they were. I did hear of a real nice one for £3500 off a contractor but they don’t appear very often. Parts are a fright yes a contractor split a cog on a round baler here years ago and it was dear.
Some of the NH balers have done a lot of work with little trouble they have some daft faults but nothing serious. One fella that had a few of them said they had all snapped drawbars just more of a nuisance than owt else

livestock 1 · Aug 2, 2022

Dave W said:
IMO there are no bad balers. Only badly set up ones. Try to buy one in the best condition with known history.

You obviously haven’t had a MF 4 then

bobk · Aug 2, 2022

Bamford

livestock 1 · Aug 2, 2022

bobk said:
Bamford

Bamford is a good little baler
No shear pin I think

bobk · Aug 2, 2022

livestock 1 said:
Bamford is a good little baler
No shear pin I think

Correct .

Skintagain · Aug 2, 2022

livestock 1 said:
I always wanted a Welger but they seemed dear at sales for what they were. I did hear of a real nice one for £3500 off a contractor but they don’t appear very often. Parts are a fright yes a contractor split a cog on a round baler here years ago and it was dear.
Some of the NH balers have done a lot of work with little trouble they have some daft faults but nothing serious. One fella that had a few of them said they had all snapped drawbars just more of a nuisance than owt else

We bought a welger and didn’t get on with it

went back to nh.

Laminated · Aug 2, 2022

I've had a new Holland 378 hayliner for about 15 years. It's never let me down but we do service it well in the winter. Made thousands of bales with it and never missed more than a couple of Knott's a day

livestock 1 · Aug 2, 2022

Story goes Helmut Claas designed the knotter and even though it can work although temperamental his top fitters and designers begged him to put a superseded type knotter on their balers he wouldn’t

Skintagain · Aug 2, 2022

Laminated said:
I've had a new Holland 378 hayliner for about 15 years. It's never let me down but we do service it well in the winter. Made thousands of bales with it and never missed more than a couple of Knott's a day

it should miss one a year.

livestock 1 · Aug 2, 2022

Skintagain said:
We bought a welger and didn’t get on with it

went back to nh.

What was up with it?

Hilly · Aug 2, 2022

Mf are a good baler .

bobk · Aug 2, 2022

Skintagain said:
it should miss one a year.

Can't remember when my bammy missed a knot , on it's 3rd set of needles

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