the old property thing
When would you expect to pay for a new piece of machinery?
- Thread starter Blue.
- Start date
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
Yes ours was a stroke of genius of the dealers part. Take away lower spec demo combine and leave higher spec combine in yard. It wasn’t leaving even if a kidney was going in part exchange.
- Location
- East yorks
I have had 2 thrown out by the bank as it had the partnerships name on the invoice
It’s being delivered to the dealers yard (supposedly for pdi) I asked for it to be delivered direct.
I’m going to tell them I’ll pay as it’s loaded for delivery to my address,if they don’t like it they can get stuffed.
Good idea - if you get hassle I`d get on to the importer and explain to them why you won`t pay up front (explain the previous financial hiccup with that dealer). You really can`t be too careful these days! Maybe the importer will stand behind you (and agree to pick up the tab if the sh*t hits the fan!)!!!!!!
Think that's a bit too considerate, trusting even
I'd be waiting until the chains are off and it's unloaded onto my yard with a contented smile upon my face before paying
BACS transfer is immediate
Never once yet ever had any dealer request immediate payment, always invoice either upon delivery, or end of month, then payment due in thirty days
Unless, of course, dealer is worried you'll default?
- Location
- Cumbria
There are far to many threads about payment and terms/warranty/working condition.
It is far easier to get it all sorted at the point of sale.
It is not unreasonable as ask for a deposit on a high value item, but max 20%, but to ask for the full value up-front is not reasonable.
Terms and conditions should be read and agreed by both sides, as late deliveries also have consequences, and could incur the buyer with additional costs such as hire, lost production, etc. Who pays for that ?
There is absolutely no doubt that the supply chain in the ag sector relies way to much on good faith and trust, great qualities until something go's wrong.
The alarm bells should be ringing if someone wants all the loot in advance of a future delivery, I would see that as they don't have the loot to pay the supplier.
It is far easier to get it all sorted at the point of sale.
It is not unreasonable as ask for a deposit on a high value item, but max 20%, but to ask for the full value up-front is not reasonable.
Terms and conditions should be read and agreed by both sides, as late deliveries also have consequences, and could incur the buyer with additional costs such as hire, lost production, etc. Who pays for that ?
There is absolutely no doubt that the supply chain in the ag sector relies way to much on good faith and trust, great qualities until something go's wrong.
The alarm bells should be ringing if someone wants all the loot in advance of a future delivery, I would see that as they don't have the loot to pay the supplier.
- Location
- northampton
I won’t pay until it’s in the yard and I’m happy with it had a kv mower come and got sent back doubt they give me my money back if I’d payed
- Location
- Cumbria
Why did you send it back ?
- Location
- Le Veurde, Allier, France 03320
Because it’s a kverneland Mower
one of my worst ever purchases.
- Location
- Cumbria
Well it's a Taarup Mower, sold by the 000's in the UK, what was wrong with it ?Because it’s a kverneland Mower
- Location
- Le Veurde, Allier, France 03320
Mainly shocking build quality and materials. The bush broke out of the arm that carries the bed. Needed a new arm. It had 5 sets of belts, turned out it hadn’t been assembled properly ( belts not covered by warranty) then 2 or 3 ujs where the pto shaft from the main gearbox goes onto the bed. And in about 150 acres of mowing it went through a set of wear plates on the bed. The metal cover over the conditioner was so thin it looked like it had been pebble dashed after the end of the first season. Oh and it wouldn’t cut Timothy hay, it just wrapped around the conditioner and it stopped. If it had been built properly I think I would have liked it and kept it. My excellent dealer ended up buying it back of me and I had a McHale which isn’t without its problems but is a million times better than the KV/Tarrup.
You say you have never dealt with this dealer before, so the dealer has never dealt with you either.
The importer took the order from you and will be invoicing said dealer.
Said dealer will be receiving a cut for processing the transaction.
Where would said dealer stand, if machine was not to your expectations and withheld payment.
At what point would you have paid the importer if you had dealt direct?
- Location
- Cumbria
Don't think that's the issue here.
The issue is being asked to pay the full amount, well in advance of seeing the goods, and given the supplying dealers history, the associated risk.
Importer, dealer, whatever, it is not reasonable.
If the importer accepted the order, on who's terms ?
Strictly speaking, if the importer accepted the order, a contract exists. But what was said "I agree the price, however I will need to contact the Dealer, who in turn will contact you " ? The dealer then contacts eulb and states his/her terms are cash in advance ?
The easiest and best way is to agree terms in advance, on high cap-x equipment, it is reasonable to ask for a deposit of up to 30% at the point of order. Perhaps 65% on delivery, and the final 5% after installation and hand-over.
Perhaps eulb could enlighten us ?
The short answer to the question is that it depends on what you agreed.
If seller is not trusted then I would ensure the deal is to pay after delivery and inspection.
If seller insists on money up front then take the risk or walk away.
There may be bigger problems in terms of warranty etc if there is an unnecessary link in the chain.
On the facts as given I would say to importer the deal is direct with it, no intermediaries , and if they can’t cope with that, move on.
But we all take risks and sometimes it works out just fine.
Boohoo
Member
- Location
- Newtownabbey
Our days of buying new machinery are probably behind us but after the last episode, payment in full on ordering was definitely the wrong thing to do. With the benefit of hindsight, payment on delivery would be plenty soon enough.
If a piece of machinery was a special build I might pay for the extras on ordering if the dealer wouldn't take all of the risk.
If a piece of machinery was a special build I might pay for the extras on ordering if the dealer wouldn't take all of the risk.
Are newrock in trouble ?
Sammy passed away last year rip. Is the new owner Jackson ?
I don't think newrock are in trouble, the customers are, who paid deposits for stuff
It’s dh Europe that went bang. Sammy’s son. He rented the premises and the newrock name from Jackson I’m led to believe
Gerbert
Member
- Location
- Dutch biblebelt
Only ever had two ways. No payment beforehand and full payment beforehand. The latter only with second hand stuff and off dealers I don't know. They gave me a choice of either paying in full before delivery or not buying it.