Carbon moratorium
- Thread starter delilah
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Excellent, totally support it. As I have said in previous posts why should I support these people's actions/lifestyles, salving their soul by letting them buy carbon credits from me. NO, let them change THEIR actions to reduce THEIR carbon footprint.
Nest PPI scandal, vw et al paying out compensation for misleading consumers this is exactly the same, the only question is who will do the paying this time, will it be the likes of the travel industry who have large corporate lawyers, the brokers who will disappear into the undergrowth or mr farmer who sold the credit? Doubt we need two guesses
willie waver
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- walking in the ayr
yes. f**k off coldplay you planet destroying hypocrites
Loftyrules
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- Location
- Monmouth
Who is currently selling carbon that doesn’t want to be?
Surely if you want to sell it and you’re happy with the buyer it’s your own choice?
Surely if you want to sell it and you’re happy with the buyer it’s your own choice?
- Location
- Exeter, Devon
Couldn’t agree more. How can farming be killing the planet (as per AR protests today) yet everyone wants our carbon?
SilliamWhale
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They are hideous with their doubled standards.
Why not just admit they use a lot of carbon and be done with it?
- Location
- South Wales UK
The header pop ups on here regularly advertising trading carbon firms ?
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- South Wales UK
Don't tell Clive?
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- Lincolnshire
Ministry of Justice announces groundbreaking reform:
Pay somebody else to serve your sentence for you,
We all know that a career in burglary isn’t without risk. A lengthy prison sentence really would hinder any criminals career prospects. Well don’t worry, we at Leech and Leech are now up and running as brokers for the new government initiative “The Sentence Trading Scheme”. Going down for 10 years? Not any more. For just £10k we will pay some oik to do your time for you so you can getting back to what you are good at - robbing folk (the planet) blind.
Pay somebody else to serve your sentence for you,
We all know that a career in burglary isn’t without risk. A lengthy prison sentence really would hinder any criminals career prospects. Well don’t worry, we at Leech and Leech are now up and running as brokers for the new government initiative “The Sentence Trading Scheme”. Going down for 10 years? Not any more. For just £10k we will pay some oik to do your time for you so you can getting back to what you are good at - robbing folk (the planet) blind.
Need a cow person to comment on this, but my understanding is that processors are already 'asking' for carbon to be handed over along with the milk.
Which is just one reason why we need a self imposed moratorium on all this now.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
Talk this year at Groundswell (by the head of the Dakota research farm) and he said basically don't sell your carbon, he could see, as climate warms, soil holds less Carbon and those who have paid for Carbon offsetting could come back and say, where is my Carbon I paid you to store?
Well they wont be getting them so easily from more developed countries. The UK is acting like the wild west on this issue. With farmers set to come out of it as the Indians.
https://www.rainforestcoalition.org/country-news/honduras-imposes-moratorium-on-voluntary-credits/
https://news.mongabay.com/2022/04/p...als-scrambles-to-write-rules-for-the-schemes/
- Location
- Northumberland
The ‘big chain’ abattoir I sell my fat cattle to phoned me up a couple of weeks ago requesting I do a carbon audit (paid for by them/supermarkets, but needing up to 5hrs of my time).
I strongly declined. I suspect that the next scam would be the supermarket cherrypicking the ‘good bits’ of my carbon balance (mainly carbon sequestration under grass) for themselves to offset their own emissions leaving me to buy in carbon credits to offset my farms emissions (ruminants,ploughing to sow crops, diesel etc)
I believe my farm will be on average around carbon neutral most years (my 450ac may even build up carbon to more than offset my diesel useage of ~6Kl/yr). That should be as far as the conversation goes. To give a supermarket 5hrs worth of detail on my carbon useage would be like the mouse explaining its movements in great detail to the cat.
It must not be allowed to happen.
Oh I agree with you in that they can fekk right off. But I worry that we’re already well down the road to having been out-manoeuvred without us even knowing. RT seems like the obvious Trojan Horse that many of us said it would become at the point of inception. RT just being one of a range of factors working against any scientifically justified fairness in the system. The system has been utterly broken for a long time. Policy makers are starting to reap the whirlwind now but are pressing on down the same road to oblivion regardless, doubling down in fact.
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- Lincolnshire
I won’t be selling any carbon credits. I’m doing nothing to clear the consciences of the air travel industry. They need to take a hard look at the lifestyle choices they are encouraging. Don’t mind folk having a holiday but does it really need to involve burning 150 gallons of irreplaceable fossil fuel per person? No amount of carbon credits will alter the fact that that fossil fuel is gone forever and is in reality unlikely to be offset by greening schemes in perpetuity or at rate that keeps pace with the burning. It’s a Ponzi scheme but don’t they just love em.
I suspect (nay know) that you are absolutely bang on there. It’s so utterly bonkers you can scarcely get your head round it. It’s called abuse of power. Was always gonna end up like this. I’ve no idea what the answer is, before you ask.
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- Lincolnshire
This is it precisely. It’s so easy to sign a a fairly woolly contract for a few quid an acre but a few years down the line when they tighten up on measurements and your sequestration plateaus you really could be in deep trouble.
Never mind it’s morally wrong in the first place in my personal opinion.