spin cycle
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- Location
- north norfolk
no different probably once you've compensated for protein shortage in beet
Fodder Beet Price.
- Thread starter Shropshirebuller
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no different probably once you've compensated for protein shortage in beet
I never could understand how late small cuts of wet grass pay the harvesting bill- especially now , buy some feed with the PK in it and have somewhere to put the sheep or dry stock cheaply surely
or is dairy farming a different concept ?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
There’s lots of lawn clippings been harvested locally in recent weeks, as well as cows getting housed as it’s getting messy on top.
Timbo
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- Location
- Gods County
Whilst it's some feed as opposed to no feed -the quality will be almost zero, and it's only really gut fill imho, and the cost for what it amounts to will be eye watering.
variety is geronimo.
Afraid that seems to be farming nowadays, do wonder where it will end.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Cop this year roughly 19 quid a ton for a good crop of sugar beet, add a bit for for harvesting and storage, id love to sell Mine at fodder beet prices as they'd pay well, no tares, no adjustments for sugarI normally buy a ouupla lorry loads a year but not this...perhaps a trailer load at lambing cos handy for pens
I've over yeared hay and bought some in whilst cheap...also extra straw cos it was bargain...planning to house earlier and make muck
then my beet growing neighbour offered me some arable break grass he'd sown instead of sugar beet ironically...so we'll see
as a former sugar beet grower I sympathise but £40+t is just as unviable to feed as grow
dairy farmers are rule unto themselves but I guess with such mind boggling daily need fo mj you buy first ask questions later
just one 'tincy' problem with my plan though....keeping my lot behind a leccy fence
Perhaps @spin cycle you old sheep boys have had cheap grub for too long!!!
Timbo
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- Location
- Gods County
Lifting is in region of £130 / ac if thats what you mean by 'abit'.Cop this year roughly 19 quid a ton for a good crop of sugar beet, add a bit for for harvesting and storage, id love to sell Mine at fodder beet prices as they'd pay well, no tares, no adjustments for sugar
Perhaps @spin cycle you old sheep boys have had cheap grub for too long!!!
- Location
- Devon
Dairy and arable boys have seen an increase in end prices (not saying they're any better off), but not the beef and sheep.Afraid that seems to be farming nowadays, do wonder where it will end.
Personally, intend matching numbers to what can be grown on farm, continue to improve grazing management, and cut out as many inputs as possible.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
That's what I try to do, but you still need to buy in when we get an extreme year like this one, or reduce stock even further then be understocked next year, when we will have a 'normal' summer.... maybe.
Faced with a drought and a shortage of winter keep, I've increased ewe numbers slightly.
spin cycle
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- Location
- north norfolk
Cop this year roughly 19 quid a ton for a good crop of sugar beet, add a bit for for harvesting and storage, id love to sell Mine at fodder beet prices as they'd pay well, no tares, no adjustments for sugar
Perhaps @spin cycle you old sheep boys have had cheap grub for too long!!!
sounds like the fodder beet growers are 'profiteering'
retires safe distance and waits
that's what ive been saying for year's i wouldn't go back to dealing with BSC for all the tea in china, but i guess our location helps.Cop this year roughly 19 quid a ton for a good crop of sugar beet, add a bit for for harvesting and storage, id love to sell Mine at fodder beet prices as they'd pay well, no tares, no adjustments for sugar
Perhaps @spin cycle you old sheep boys have had cheap grub for too long!!!
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
90-100 quid here for a contractor or a bloody lot less if you lift your own.
- Location
- Devon
Agreed.That's what I try to do, but you still need to buy in when we get an extreme year like this one, or reduce stock even further then be understocked next year, when we will have a 'normal' summer.... maybe.
But I've been short too many years in a row now, due to fluctuating grass keep availability.
Gonna cut back a little and be content to carry over a surplus from a good year into a year like this.
Timbo
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- Location
- Gods County
Your tractor / trailer / man lugging it runs on fresh air then?
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
100 quid is to the heap and no my tractors/trailers/man. Doesn't run on fresh air but doing it yourself doesn't cost anywhere near what a contractor would charge.
ollie989898
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Fodder beet should be more prevalent. It's a great crop to grow, a great feed and and a very useful break for arable land.
- Location
- Northern Ireland
How often can fodder beet be grown on the same field? Can it be grown immediately after hybrid forage rape?
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- Location
- the brecks norfolk
1 in 3 is as tight as it can be, beware of close rotation and brassicas in the rotation as nematodes can be a big problem.
Enry
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- Location
- Shropshire
can get 22% Dm washed beet for around £53 del which is about the same as rolled barley at £210 - beet must have a decent GM if 35t/acre at £45/t ex farm? - £1575/acre plus some sheep keep on tops/crowns or even more OM if ploughed in? Hearing of direct drillers putting molasses on fields to feed the bugs, beet remains must do the same job?