Row spacing in Beans
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SilliamWhale
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Well I got 2.5t/acre from 7.5" spacings
- Location
- CW5 Cheshire
I sometimes drill springs at 6" and sometimes at 12", I'm not sure it makes much difference, but I wouldn't go any wider.
Captain Mainwaring
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- Location
- E. Sussex
Not sure it matters too much, plant density is more important in terms of overall yield. The wider row spacing just helps to keep the canopy more open to aid spray penetration and prevent a micro climate effect. Row width is usually restricted on spring beans by your drills ability to sow a high enough rate through only a few coulters.
- Location
- Nr Malvern... SW Worcestershire
We drill "winters and springs" at 10" which seems to work for both. Soil conditions are usually not at their best at bean drilling time so the less metal you have to pull through the ground the better (IMO).
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
9 inches
plenty of seeds are essential and not too early 50 or more seed per m2 need a minimum of 40 plants for april planting short plants leave the bottom pods below combine height and just feed the pigeons
I find if a coulter is blocked weeds grow in the gap so wider is not a good option
plenty of seeds are essential and not too early 50 or more seed per m2 need a minimum of 40 plants for april planting short plants leave the bottom pods below combine height and just feed the pigeons
I find if a coulter is blocked weeds grow in the gap so wider is not a good option
Could sow with a tine at 14 inches into clean field's. Seeds not bunched. Depth even. It is only a option.
I think 10" is really a wide as you could go. But then again maybe 12" rows sufer less disease. downey mildew For example. Beans don't branch as well as rape
May try a field as a comparison. If no one did it then maybe it works too
I think 10" is really a wide as you could go. But then again maybe 12" rows sufer less disease. downey mildew For example. Beans don't branch as well as rape
May try a field as a comparison. If no one did it then maybe it works too
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SilliamWhale
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Whats the reason for wanting the wider spacings Phil?
Fish
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- Location
- North yorkshire
Now for sometime compleatly different, we drill winters in 24" rows at 4/5" seed spacing. Yields have been as high as 7t+Ha, this year how ever the crop got hit by a very keen frost in early May, which knocked the stuffing out of it, splitting many of the stems and killing others, but still went on to yield 6.2t/ha.
Springs on the other hand I would never drill wider than 12".
Springs on the other hand I would never drill wider than 12".
What is your thinking on such wide spacings.
Will sowing date determine row spacing in spring?
Fish
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- Location
- North yorkshire
The reason for wide rows, well, the first idea was to try to create the edge effect all over the field and to let air move through the crop to try and reduce disease.
As most farmers round the world would consider beans as a row crop, and as I like to be different, I thought I would have ago and try.That was 25 years ago and we are still doing it, although it has now morphed into notill precision drilling.
Will sowing date determine row spacing in spring?, sorry really no idea on that one, but I dought it.
- Location
- Southern Ireland
Hello Fish,
Sorry for reviving an old thread here!
Im very interested in hearing more about your winter bean drilling operation.
Are you still sowing at 24 ince spacing? what machine were/are you using?
We are looking at options for putting them in early and deep here, so we dont get caught out in an exceptionally wet autumn.
Our subsoiler could be easily adapted we think to sow them deep... but the row spacing is our concern at 50 cm...! (19.6 inches)
Disease is our big worry in Cork with our mild winters and high rainfall. We have had good results at 10 inch spacing with our dale drill, but 5 inches deep is as far as we'd go with it. Usually around the middle of october sowing date... which is very very early for this part of the world aready.
Any advice much appreciated
- Location
- Limousin, France
5" deep is ok, particularly mid October onwards
We used to spin on and plough in 6-7" deep. Too rough to follow, crops too variable.
Bought a Kockerling AT300 on this very forum in 2015 which worked very well, 7*12" shares in 3m 5-6" deep. They were 17" wide but worked better for us a bit narrower.
Upgraded this winter to a Mzuri ProTil, so far so good - we have some sown with band coulters and some bean coulters.
Could you get some old duett coulters (often for sale at AgriLinc etal or eBay) and weld on the back of your subsoiler legs? Leg run deeper and blow seed onto a 'shelf' created by the duett a bit nearer the surface?
Just a random idea!
- Location
- Worcestershire
And the bees will only be able to fly one way,wide rows in theory should only be drilled north south