- Location
- North Yorkshire
A year
Highways England Compound Rental
- Thread starter RedTractor6761
- Start date
Doing it for the kids
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Who did that deal!?
Works out less than 2 p /ft2!
Works out less than 2 p /ft2!
- Location
- North Yorkshire
Missed a 0 off meant £13000 Landlords agent I also get about 1000 ton of stone and land put back to grass
Wow, I wouldn't worry about the rent if they left that and you manage to get planning to retain.Hi everyone, hope you are all well.
Just an update for you all... this is what it looks like, yes, they have tarmac and street lighting:
This is the other side:
There is more in the distance that is unlit!
We have still not negotiated the rent!
Nearly
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- Location
- North of York
That's more like it.
Know a couple of men who got that per quarter where company had no alternative access.
I'm not sure on your circumstances and what you've signed, but if no rent has yet been agreed it be surprised if they aren't in breach of contract. On a much smaller scale I've seen good "compensation" from SSE, Thames Water and Gigaclear where they have accessed our land without the correct agreements fully in place... the big powers all try their luck in hope we are thick farmers without the incentive to see things right. You can demand a justified value loss to you, but it will need to be satisfied by a breakdown of how you came to the figure. IE you had plans to rear 10 lambs to the acre a year, cost per head per year £50, sale value £120, revenue lost £70/head= £17500 per annum. You can then add soil restoration, nutrient rebalancing, etc legitimately. I'd also approach the council for permanent change of use and offer HA the chance to extend the contract on a more commercial rate.
RedTractor6761
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Interesting, thank you. I did have plans for those fields, however, after being conned by a career fraudster, and lost all my money, my plans have been seriously delayed and I'm still trying to pick up the pieces. Also with the new Telecommunications Code, mast rent is now 10% of what it used to be. I'm just tired of being done-over by everyone and now, National Highways as well! They also trespassed outside their area and in return for that, have retrospectively agreed to lay me a stone track (although this was in January and I've seen nothing yet) that will allow me to get to the other side of my land (which their compound has effectively orphaned me from).
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Sounds like you deserve something good to come about!
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
I have re-read your recent photo post again this morning in a totally different light after your above comment.
This is everything that is wrong with the system that gives rights to government departments....without affording proper compensation to the landowner.
It also links in well with the other thread on here about buying land for houses at less than agricultural value.
This is everything that is wrong with the system that gives rights to government departments....without affording proper compensation to the landowner.
It also links in well with the other thread on here about buying land for houses at less than agricultural value.
- Location
- sw scotland
Can you tell us why this compound is needed? There must be a huge infrastructure project nearby. No company lays all that tar and permanent streetlights for a 2 year project. Surely there is something else going on here
To put it in perspective the small figures have been £1400 for access to do a transformer where they put two huge wheelmarks across a ploughed field, £2500 for an early access with Thames Water to replace a pipe, £11k for an unlawful access to our land by the local Internet provider. The Thames Water one I used an agent, the other two my own argument. No idea of your location, looks a bit like the one on m4 near me. Andrew Chandler at Carter Jonas is a genuine chap with good knowledge and won't waste your money if you want a good agent and can't be arsed to do it yourself. Happy to give my tuppence worth personally for advice if you want to pm me, or drop in if you're local enough
RedTractor6761
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If the cost of £317 million is anything to go by...
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
How long is the project likely to last?
I would think any reasonable person would think 0.01% of the budget would be a very fair annual rent....
Oliveau
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- Location
- Indre et Loire, France
Spot on Steevo.
Nevertheless the [Drone ??] photos of tarmac, lighting and neatly parked cars just looks a bit odd to me. Are we collectively having our legs lifted?
I note that despite being asked several times the OP has not given his location.
The images shown in #144 appear to be from Imgur
I quote:
"What is a Imgur link?
Imgur (/ˈɪmɪdʒər/ IM-ij-ər, stylized as imgur) is an American online image sharing and image hosting service with a focus on social gossip that was founded by Alan Schaaf in 2009. The service has hosted viral images and memes, particularly those posted on Reddit."
Nevertheless the [Drone ??] photos of tarmac, lighting and neatly parked cars just looks a bit odd to me. Are we collectively having our legs lifted?
I note that despite being asked several times the OP has not given his location.
The images shown in #144 appear to be from Imgur
I quote:
"What is a Imgur link?
Imgur (/ˈɪmɪdʒər/ IM-ij-ər, stylized as imgur) is an American online image sharing and image hosting service with a focus on social gossip that was founded by Alan Schaaf in 2009. The service has hosted viral images and memes, particularly those posted on Reddit."
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- Location
- sw scotland
What is £317 million building? You would build a big hospital for 500m and I doubt they would lay tarred car parks and street lighting unless it was to be permanent. There look like disabled parking bays and some charging points too.
You were conned out of all your money yet when the golden goose comes along there is compulsory purchase yet
you have had no payment for a huge site which may not be reinstated and have been cut off from part of your land???
You also suggested you may use it if it was left. What would be the plan for a car park for 300 cars? Supermarket, football stadium?
There also appears to be an underpass at the bottom of the photos. Doesn’t look genuine to meSpot on Steevo.
Nevertheless the [Drone ??] photos of tarmac, lighting and neatly parked cars just looks a bit odd to me. Are we collectively having our legs lifted?
I note that despite being asked several times the OP has not given his location.
The images shown in #144 appear to be from Imgur
I quote:
"What is a Imgur link?
Imgur (/ˈɪmɪdʒər/ IM-ij-ər, stylized as imgur) is an American online image sharing and image hosting service with a focus on social gossip that was founded by Alan Schaaf in 2009. The service has hosted viral images and memes, particularly those posted on Reddit."
Oliveau
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- Location
- Indre et Loire, France
And in all my years of construction works I have NEVER seen a works compound as tidy as that! No plant or machinery; no materials. Sorry, it doesn't stack up for me. [And the OP has gone quiet............]
Me suspicious?? Never, but I was a land agent on major infrastucture projects, so what would I know?
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
I’m going to take a stab in the dark after a quick Google and suggest that this £317m project could well be the one being talked about.
www.getsurrey.co.uk
If so, the budget has already risen from between £100m to £200m, then again to between £200m and £250m, and seemingly now stands at £317m.
The compound alone probably cost a million or more to build.
www.theconstructionindex.co.uk
Key dates A3 and M25 will close as part of £317m project
National Highways will enforce overnight closures in August, September and October
www.getsurrey.co.uk
If so, the budget has already risen from between £100m to £200m, then again to between £200m and £250m, and seemingly now stands at £317m.
The compound alone probably cost a million or more to build.
Balfour gets go-ahead for £250m Wisley junction scheme
Balfour Beatty Atkins JV is set to start work in the autumn on the construction of a £250m scheme to improve the intersection between the M3 and the A3 in Surrey.
www.theconstructionindex.co.uk
RedTractor6761
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Wow, what a backlash. Sorry for going 'quiet'!
I'm not pulling anyone's legs, unfortunately! Imgur is just the platform that the images were uploaded to as a way of sharing them.Spot on Steevo.
Nevertheless the [Drone ??] photos of tarmac, lighting and neatly parked cars just looks a bit odd to me. Are we collectively having our legs lifted?
I note that despite being asked several times the OP has not given his location.
The images shown in #144 appear to be from Imgur
I quote:
"What is a Imgur link?
Imgur (/ˈɪmɪdʒər/ IM-ij-ər, stylized as imgur) is an American online image sharing and image hosting service with a focus on social gossip that was founded by Alan Schaaf in 2009. The service has hosted viral images and memes, particularly those posted on Reddit."
You are correct Steevo, it is for the M25/J10 improvement scheme. I didn't think that the project should make any difference to the situation I'm in or the questions I'm asking?I’m going to take a stab in the dark after a quick Google and suggest that this £317m project could well be the one being talked about.
Key dates A3 and M25 will close as part of £317m project
National Highways will enforce overnight closures in August, September and October
If so, the budget has already risen from between £100m to £200m, then again to between £200m and £250m, and seemingly now stands at £317m.
The compound alone probably cost a million or more to build.
Balfour gets go-ahead for £250m Wisley junction scheme
Balfour Beatty Atkins JV is set to start work in the autumn on the construction of a £250m scheme to improve the intersection between the M3 and the A3 in Surrey.
I have no idea what a works compound should look like, I'm just simply providing factual information about my situation.
Oliveau
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- Location
- Indre et Loire, France
OK, so I stand corrected.
OP stated that no financial arrangements are in place.
So a simple question that I should have asked much earlier:
In respect of the land in question, are you the owner/occupier or a tenant?
" I didn't think that the project should make any difference to the situation I'm in or the questions I'm asking?"
Indeed it does make a huge difference, as it affects the advice we can offer.
But the burning issue is:
Why hasn't your agent negotiated a deal before anybody ever set foot on the land?? If thereis nothinf formal in place it is highly irregular. But without full background information it is impossible to offer sound advice.