Blackbrow abattoir for sale

kiwi pom · Jul 3, 2023

livestock 1 said:
When you are farming it takes up a lot of your thoughts to do it on any scale if you add a slaughterhouse then you probably would go round the bend if you tried to do both. You would need someone to run it. You would need to be able to finance it, that would mean selling land property and borrowing a huge amount of money. Throwing something reasonably secure up in the air to put it into something insecure doesn’t make sense for most hence why most farmers won’t bite the bullet.

Yes I realise it won't suit everyone, I was thinking more along the line of a larger farm business already used to a larger scale, hiring staff, raising funds etc.
The forum owner for example seems to have a few different things going on, many of the posters on here have a considerable amount invested in diversifications.
I realise killing stuff isn't a very attractive business but if no one else will do it perhaps a farmer group is needed if they are to survive as stock farmers.
I guess it's far more common here than there.

unlacedgecko · Jul 3, 2023

kiwi pom said:
Yes I realise it won't suit everyone, I was thinking more along the line of a larger farm business already used to a larger scale, hiring staff, raising funds etc.
The forum owner for example seems to have a few different things going on, many of the posters on here have a considerable amount invested in diversifications.
I realise killing stuff isn't a very attractive business but if no one else will do it perhaps a farmer group is needed if they are to survive as stock farmers.
I guess it's far more common here than there.

There's plenty of stock farmers here who close their eyes to the reality that livestock get killed. And there doesn't seem to be many who know their way around home kill.

Raider112 · Jul 3, 2023

MDL POWERUP said:
Mainly used to kill his own pigs

I often see a pig wagon on the way there, didn't realise they were his own. Any new owner might lose that side of it if he packs the pigs in.

Warrior+1 · Jul 3, 2023

Raider112 said:
I often see a pig wagon on the way there, didn't realise they were his own. Any new owner might lose that side of it if he packs the pigs in.

Not much to lose his trade has gone through ignorance

livestock 1 · Jul 3, 2023

unlacedgecko said:
There's plenty of stock farmers here who close their eyes to the reality that livestock get killed. And there doesn't seem to be many who know their way around home kill.

I sell a bit of meat from the farm. It’s a bit of a faff on. I can’t shift enough volume to do it full time nor would I manage to book it in to get killed for that matter

Warrior+1 · Jul 3, 2023

I never thought about the fact that if he leased blackbrow out for 10 years at £1000 per week he would have that’s £520000 back and he would still have the place but at least he wouldn’t lose but he would never do that that’s to easy for him

Warrior+1 · Jul 3, 2023

livestock 1 said:
I sell a bit of meat from the farm. It’s a bit of a faff on. I can’t shift enough volume to do it full time nor would I manage to book it in to get killed for that matter

I can’t get my head around this 1 obviously farmers have there own vets but aren’t allowed to have a licensed slaughtermen to come and kill and dress there animals for them for there own consumption because they aren’t allowed to pay for there service but they are allowed to come and do it for free if I’m wrong about this correct me I often do farmers favours for free

BAF · Jul 4, 2023

Warrior+1 said:
I can’t get my head around this 1 obviously farmers have there own vets but aren’t allowed to have a licensed slaughtermen to come and kill and dress there animals for them for there own consumption because they aren’t allowed to pay for there service but they are allowed to come and do it for free if I’m wrong about this correct me I often do farmers favours for free

Home kill rules are daft. I think technically anything home kill has to be killed and consumed by the end user. So strictly going by the rules I can kill and butcher a sheep of my own at home but only me and my immediate family who live on the premises can consume it. I think those are the rules. Yet I was previously licensed to sell game - venison - from home and that is shot and gutted in a field, it was skinned in my garage and chopped up in the kitchen and I could sell that direct to nearly anyone that was an end user. The only restrictions on that was quantity of meat produced and it couldn't be sold to caterers but pubs and restaurants was fine.

Half Pipe · Jul 4, 2023

unlacedgecko said:
Put together a business plan. Find some investors. Partner up with the wholesaler and give it a go.

Crowd funding might be an option!?

ringi · Jul 4, 2023

Maybe crowd funding that gives so many "free" kills over the first few years. With the crowd funders having a joint mortgage on the site, so the operator gets the site without having to pay interest on a mortgage.

Raider112 · Jul 4, 2023

Half Pipe said:
Crowd funding might be an option!?

It's exactly what farmers have been saying we need, small independent abattoirs that stop the hold the large abattoirs have over us.

The difficulty would be getting an outlet for the meat, the supermarkets have so much hold and they won't leave the big distributors.

Warrior+1 · Jul 4, 2023

Raider112 said:
It's exactly what farmers have been saying we need, small independent abattoirs that stop the hold the large abattoirs have over us.

The difficulty would be getting an outlet for the meat, the supermarkets have so much hold and they won't leave the big distributors.

Super markets take wholesalers meat at the price they want to pay and to be honest it isn’t top quality not saying there product is bad just saying local butcher quality is a lot different and there’s a different market for product quality costs money

Tornado220M · Jul 6, 2023

Northeastfarmer said:
Agreed. Hence why I couldn’t think of anything worse. They don’t need much of an excuse not to turn up to work,

I had an employee who would work really hard from the 1st work day of each month until he had "earnt" enough money that month and then I wouldn't see him till the start of the next month, it took him 3 years almost to the day to work out he was the only employee that didn't get a wage increase each year. The minimum wage and benefits are the issue, get rid of them and the country might stand a chance ! It will take time though

Tornado220M · Jul 6, 2023

Raider112 said:
It's exactly what farmers have been saying we need, small independent abattoirs that stop the hold the large abattoirs have over us.

The difficulty would be getting an outlet for the meat, the supermarkets have so much hold and they won't leave the big distributors.

I have bought beef off facebook sales before ! It just needs good marketing and outlets would appear ! For instance a group of farmers in each area could operate a shop, but they need advertising not the lame Saturday market adverts but real concerted enmasse advertising, investment in a slot on TV, local radio, a single website that dishes out to POSTCODE areas etc this could be big with the right incentives, investment and people !

Tornado220M · Jul 6, 2023

livestock 1 said:
I sell a bit of meat from the farm. It’s a bit of a faff on. I can’t shift enough volume to do it full time nor would I manage to book it in to get killed for that matter

not having a dig, but how and where do you advertise ? on which social media outlets ? what websites etc ?

Warrior+1 · Jul 6, 2023

Last day of the killing week for blackbrow 1 week to go

someone can see what I can see just don’t have the finances

border reiver · Jul 6, 2023

It’s such an opportunity for the correct individual to take this forward but they need to be open minded and not stuck in their ways

such as present.( had a big chat on the loading bay last year

)
There isnt anywhere else within 50? Miles able to kill for farmers/butchers etc .. and if it closes that’s it!
Dave and co(Westmorland S), ive seen him do it, would seem to me to be more than capable to get it started again but it would need some strong leadership to make it sing.
Golden opportunity in my opinion - just wish I had the cahonas.
Do not let it be closed down!!,!!!!'!!!!!!!!!!

border reiver · Jul 6, 2023

It’s such an opportunity for the correct individual to take this forward but they need to be open minded and not stuck in their ways

such as present.( had a big chat on the loading bay last year

)
There isnt anywhere else within 50? Miles able to kill for farmers/butchers etc .. and if it closes that’s it!
Dave and co(Westmorland S), ive seen him do it, would seem to me to be more than capable to get it started again but it would need some strong leadership to make it sing.
Golden opportunity in my opinion - just wish I had the cahonas.
Do not let it be closed down!!,!!!!'!!!!!!!!!!

Warrior+1 · Jul 7, 2023

Know Dave very well from when he was working for the mhs absolute gem of a man a pleasure to know him and to have worked with him not to long ago but ye if it goes down and nobody wants to have a go I’ll be in wsl within a week or 2 but I do hope someone gets it because if it’s ran correctly then it’s an opportunity of a lifetime for someone and there’s plenty of contract killing around at the moment but the owner didn’t want to do it incase they didn’t have the staff but when it comes to something like that with the right team it’s a winner

Warrior+1 · Jul 7, 2023

The previous owner Ashley graham should purchase it because before he sold it was flying and making money all ends

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