OSR - Leave it to ripen naturally?

Bobthebuilder

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Mixed Farmer
Location
northumberland
The swather killed things more definitively but lead to the same timing dilemma. I’d say there were less losses overall and an easier job. The downside was if the crop was laid and the stubble was short and you got a lot of rain after swathing it went down like a muck heap. Cutting back to 25 acres next year. 60 acres is too much stress.
Try 260ac 🙈
 

Bobthebuilder

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Mixed Farmer
Location
northumberland
Try 260ac 🙈
All done with podstick on Wednesday when still green to flatten down tramlines, hopefully not as much knocked out when roundup goes on later
 

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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I liked the swathing system to some extent but when ripening is very uneven I did lose some in the dry areas while cutting green patches too early. My agronomist always reckoned that glypho was less likely to lead to green or red seed as it was a slow kill and didn’t shock the plant as much as cutting it off. The glypho also cleans up perennial rubbish of course.
Combining was so much easier with the draper pickup provided the swath hadn’t had weeks of rain.
My old fortschritt shelbourne swather went to Poland. Somebody got a bargain there though it was showing it’s age. The last season I used it the boss broke off the end of one of the lift rams. Welded it back on in situ and it lasted the season. Tyres were nearly shot and old Belarus engine knocked and sweated. So I sold it while it still had a bit more than scrap value. I now use a Polish made bed extension on my dommy.
Makes you wonder though. Best yield we ever had was cutting direct with MF525 with basic bed. 36 cwt/acre with Bienvenu.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Not for no reason was it called black gold. It was £360/t back in the 80s, and did nearly 2 ton.
Double lows was the biggest scam on growers ever, been no good since really has it..
My father was an early adopter of OSR. In those days we seemed go get some decent yields. We’d no chopper on the combine so one of my summer jobs was driving across the straw trails with a MF65 and Robin Hood wuffler kicking the straw about ready to be ploughed in.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
It’s all sprayed off now. Varied from too green to so dead it’s ready for combining. Fudging nightmare. Easier to assess once you’ve driven over the whole field with the sprayer. Can’t really assess properly just trying to walk in from the edges. Would probably have been a good use for a drone to fly over it and at least assess greenness. Assessing by opening pods and looking at seed is as good as useless in these drought ravaged crops due to extreme variability across the field.
 

nxy

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Mixed Farmer
We were cuting direct cut osr at 7% moisture yesterday. You could barely see for dust though the stubble is pretty green under the crop. The only thing alive at cuting height is cow parsley that seems to love wrapping round the reel on the combine if you so much as touch it.
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We were cuting direct cut osr at 7% moisture yesterday. You could barely see for dust though the stubble is pretty green under the crop. The only thing alive at cuting height is cow parsley that seems to love wrapping round the reel on the combine if you so much as touch it.View attachment 1123138

Must be great being a French farmer. You harvest early and then get to enjoy august and September off.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
never go back to swathing weather far too iffy up here for that task.
it worked 20yr ago seemingly but not so brave now.
Standing OSR rarely an issue if you cant get at it, quickest crop to harvest tho after rain.
Swathed stuff be the last you could look at after Rain & it just gets closer n closer to the ground the more rain it gets.
We had a wet fortnight after swathing one year when the bottom of the swath rotted. We only just salvaged it. That’s what put us off.
 

nxy

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Mixed Farmer
Must be great being a French farmer. You harvest early and then get to enjoy august and September off.
I would swap my early harvest for your yields. Its actually quite late for us to be harvesting osr its often finished in June. Harvesting is slow with this changeable weather though I saw some wheat that had been cut a couple of days ago. We are stopped again today after rain this morning. We have feeders full of hay out for the cows but they are not interested at the moment as there is still plenty of grass , thats not normal for this time of year.
 

Drillman

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Mixed Farmer
In 2005, we swathed all our osr because we had Axial Flow combines with those awful Droningborg headers that struggled to cut direct. In 30 degree temperatures it dried in 7 days. We had it harvested and the stubble worked before our neighbours' glyphosate treated crops, which were under heat stress, had taken the chemical up & died sufficiently.

A flip side to your experience that year...
Ah yes 30 degree temps and crawling along at 1kph as it won’t feed, that was me last year, it got dark eventually and got up to an almost dizzy 3kph so kept going till it was done.
 

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