The House Cow

topground

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Livestock Farmer
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North Somerset.
Sister in law is in public health , they are investigating the rapid growth in I'm nearly certain btb strains in humans in inner city and cannot understand where it's coming from. Must ask the Mrs again, it sounded pretty serious.
My niece is a GP and when asked about Tb it was clear that it is not something that has been highlighted as a potential problem during her training. If GPs are not considering Tb as part of a diagnosis at the early stages the potential for spread in over crowded dwellings is significantly increased.
 

crashbox

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Livestock Farmer
when I say extremely unlikely, I mean vanishingly unlikely don't I?
Human TB was endemic in the past...but bovine in people very much less so....and given that 'reactors' must've been sneezing it everywhere.

Waiting for someone to cough up the info...I don't know.
Our local raw milk vendor assures me it's just not an issue-although they're put on hold whenever there's a lump on a coo
Someone on the forum mentioned they had an issue. It does happen.

Doctors gave my siblings BCG after it was no longer compulsory, due to consumption of raw milk (we are dairy farmers).

From NHS:
The BCG vaccine (which stands for Bacillus Calmette-Guérin vaccine) is not given as part of the routine NHS vaccination schedule. It's given on the NHS only when a child or adult is thought to have an increased risk of coming into contact with TB.
 

Whitewalker

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My money would be on it coming in on an aeroplane.
From what I recall and this may be completely false because I can't remember and the Mrs is snoring, it's a local btb strain but appearing in inner city people.

Which to me would be screaming raw milk consumption but I know nothing. Will ask tomorrow
 

Bucks Boy

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Mixed Farmer
We had a Jersey house cow when I was a kid.Which I milked. Milk was just filtered by muslin cloth and cooled. Lovely thick cream in the morning. Started off milking cow with machine, but found keeping it all clean a lot of work. Stopped using machine, and milked by hand. Cow would just stand anywhere and be milked. Come in really useful milking colostrum out of suckler cows Later in life. People can’t believe how fast I am. Practice makes perfect.
 

Whitewalker

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My niece is a GP and when asked about Tb it was clear that it is not something that has been highlighted as a potential problem during her training. If GPs are not considering Tb as part of a diagnosis at the early stages the potential for spread in over crowded dwellings is significantly increased.
True
 

Flossie

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Livestock Farmer
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Lancs
We had a Jersey house cow when I was a kid.Which I milked. Milk was just filtered by muslin cloth and cooled. Lovely thick cream in the morning. Started off milking cow with machine, but found keeping it all clean a lot of work. Stopped using machine, and milked by hand. Cow would just stand anywhere and be milked. Come in really useful milking colostrum out of suckler cows Later in life. People can’t believe how fast I am. Practice makes perfect.
Years ago at the Dairy Event one of the stands had a model cow. There was a competition to see who could milk the most (water) out of it into a bucket in 30 seconds. Won myself a bottle of whiskey for my efforts 😄
 

Flossie

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Lancs
Way back in the mists of time I was a rep for a couple of years. If you got offered a brew, you never refused as it was a foot in the door.
This old chap with a few beefers invited me in for a brew one day. I'd decided it was quite a creamy cup of tea anyway, before he proceeded to tell me that his house cow hadn't calved for 5 years 😲 (and I don't think it was a high yielding Holstein that just milked and milked 🫣)
 

Wisconsonian

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Trade
TB is still the standard for design of pasteurization as it's the toughest microbe to kill. (ignoring Johnes debate)
TB and Brucelosis are extremely rare in North American cattle, most cases are contracted from the farm labor from endemic countries, of course cities have similar TB rates to cities anywhere. Plenty of diseases to catch from raw milk, but TB and Brucelosis are very rare in the US from raw milk.
 
Way back in the mists of time I was a rep for a couple of years. If you got offered a brew, you never refused as it was a foot in the door.
This old chap with a few beefers invited me in for a brew one day. I'd decided it was quite a creamy cup of tea anyway, before he proceeded to tell me that his house cow hadn't calved for 5 years 😲 (and I don't think it was a high yielding Holstein that just milked and milked 🫣)
I can't get close to five years, but I used to know three elderly sisters who were tenants on a local estate. They had taken on the farm in succession from their parents. In their younger years they had had a milk round in their village and still kept a cow for the house. When they were milk selling, they never even considered serving their cows again until they had been calved for at least a year, if not longer. They bought a Jersey from me to replace their previous Shorthorn cow which had gone dry after a four year lactation. When I delivered the Jersey, they showed me the Shorthorn and it was like being introduced to the Durham Ox! 😲
 

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