Arla

vantage

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Livestock Farmer
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Pembs
I'm on 32 so I am with you subsidising the Danes as well. I assume they will get most as only a couple have posted on here saying they are over the average.
It will change when Promar review it in three weeks.
Couldn’t prove I had 100 % cover even though we’re all permanent grass, we foliar feed, etc , etc!!!
 
48 is eu average. thought uk average was more like 38. Sure pormar has maffed up nitrogen figures.
No figure for UK has been published and it is changing as figures continually get updated as a result of Genus visits. Our farms currently have 43, 51 and 57 points. With this years carbon audits they will be 44, 58 and 53 respectively. To achieve that we have taken all soya out of the diet and contracted all renewable electricity which cost us very little different through our buying group.
 

Jdunn55

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No figure for UK has been published and it is changing as figures continually get updated as a result of Genus visits. Our farms currently have 43, 51 and 57 points. With this years carbon audits they will be 44, 58 and 53 respectively. To achieve that we have taken all soya out of the diet and contracted all renewable electricity which cost us very little different through our buying group.
I don't mean this in a horrible way, but why on earth are you all f**king about and putting up with this sh!t?

Who honestly, and I mean in genuine honesty, is actually benefiting from any of this crap?

Has anyone ever met a member of the public who has asked if you're feeding soya or not? Or how many kg of nitrogen per ha you use?

The only question I've ever been asked is if my cows have names (yes they do) and if I have back scratchers for them (no unfortunately I don't)

The environmental impact of us pissing about for an entire year is probably negated by the likes of China in about 30 seconds
 

worker

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I don't mean this in a horrible way, but why on earth are you all f**king about and putting up with this sh!t?

Who honestly, and I mean in genuine honesty, is actually benefiting from any of this crap?

Has anyone ever met a member of the public who has asked if you're feeding soya or not? Or how many kg of nitrogen per ha you use?

The only question I've ever been asked is if my cows have names (yes they do) and if I have back scratchers for them (no unfortunately I don't)

The environmental impact of us pissing about for an entire year is probably negated by the likes of China in about 30 seconds
well actually it is useful to shut up vegan friends by informing them that unlike themselves, our cows do not eat soya. then show them a video of our cows enjoying the brushes
 

Jdunn55

Member
well actually it is useful to shut up vegan friends by informing them that unlike themselves, our cows do not eat soya. then show them a video of our cows enjoying the brushes
You reckon?
My take is I'll tell them they dont eat soya and then they'll tell me I rape them anyway and then murder them so it doesn't matter

Trying to bargain with clowns is stupidity
 
I don't mean this in a horrible way, but why on earth are you all f**king about and putting up with this sh!t?

Who honestly, and I mean in genuine honesty, is actually benefiting from any of this crap?

Has anyone ever met a member of the public who has asked if you're feeding soya or not? Or how many kg of nitrogen per ha you use?

The only question I've ever been asked is if my cows have names (yes they do) and if I have back scratchers for them (no unfortunately I don't)

The environmental impact of us pissing about for an entire year is probably negated by the likes of China in about 30 seconds
The pressure comes from government, NGOs and ESG investors who expect to see improvements in our customers environmental sustainability. They will insist on it as part of their contracts going forward, in the mean time we need to extract some money from them for being ahead of the game.

Whilst China are creating a lot of issues building more coal fired power stations, they also lead the world in sustainable energy (both wind and solar) and transport as well. While we have faffed about failing to build HS2, they have built enough rail to circle the world.

I am not convinced Arla have got the sustainability scheme right yet but the farmer representatives are working with staff on future improvements, but we all need to act and anything to encourage that is a good thing, however it also needs to be a simple both to take action and to evidence compliance than it currently is.
 

sjt01

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
The pressure comes from government, NGOs and ESG investors who expect to see improvements in our customers environmental sustainability. They will insist on it as part of their contracts going forward, in the mean time we need to extract some money from them for being ahead of the game.

Whilst China are creating a lot of issues building more coal fired power stations, they also lead the world in sustainable energy (both wind and solar) and transport as well. While we have faffed about failing to build HS2, they have built enough rail to circle the world.

I am not convinced Arla have got the sustainability scheme right yet but the farmer representatives are working with staff on future improvements, but we all need to act and anything to encourage that is a good thing, however it also needs to be a simple both to take action and to evidence compliance than it currently is.
I would (as I suspect many others) be happier entering the data for Arla if it was put once into a central database, where Promar (climate), Kite (R500), Map of Ag (CARE 360), Arlagaarden, Sustainability etc would be permitted to access just the items relevant to their work. We have to enter slightly different things in multiple databases at present, all of which overlap.
 

rustyspring

Member
Livestock Farmer
If someone knows some body in the Arla hierarchy ask them if it's true that if you don't fill in the climate check you will get paid the average points anyway! Probably nonsense but apparently came from someone working for Arla.
 

vantage

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
well actually it is useful to shut up vegan friends by informing them that unlike themselves, our cows do not eat soya. then show them a video of our cows enjoying the brushes
So that soya is grown especially for your cows?
No, it’s a byproduct from soya oil.
The pressure comes from government, NGOs and ESG investors who expect to see improvements in our customers environmental sustainability. They will insist on it as part of their contracts going forward, in the mean time we need to extract some money from them for being ahead of the game.

Whilst China are creating a lot of issues building more coal fired power stations, they also lead the world in sustainable energy (both wind and solar) and transport as well. While we have faffed about failing to build HS2, they have built enough rail to circle the world.

I am not convinced Arla have got the sustainability scheme right yet but the farmer representatives are working with staff on future improvements, but we all need to act and anything to encourage that is a good thing, however it also needs to be a simple both to take action and to evidence compliance than it currently is.
@frederick raised a very important point a few days ago, basically do Arla quote for product where hoops are jumped through and the same products with no hoop jumping?

“in the mean time we need to extract some money from them for being ahead of the game.”
Bloody hell, I thought that should be obvious!
 

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