The war in Ukraine...
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Hindsight
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Why bother. Vlad has told the Russian people what happened. Simples.
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Just been listening to The Telegraph's latest Ukraine podcast (link below) which claims, based on sat' images, that Russia has evacuated all but a few of its Black Sea fleet from Sevastopol. I've read a few posts about this on another forum, but that was just the shave without anything to back it up, this is the first time I've heard it mentioned by reliable media.
I think that if The Telegraph is sufficiently confident to publish this, they must be pretty sure of their sources and the evidence adduced. This being so... the same forum has posts from people - so far proved right regarding earlier claims - who reckon that Russia has already lost or removed nearly all of its air assets in Crimea; again no evidence, only opinion, but it will be interesting to see if this is backed up by the MSM sooner or later.
All that Russia now has left in Sevastopol is one old sub and a few landing craft, from having had a couple of dozen ships based there when it started the war. Of course a fair number of ships have been sunk or destroyed by Ukraine but, still, it's quite an achievement for Ukraine to force Russia to evacuate.
I think that if The Telegraph is sufficiently confident to publish this, they must be pretty sure of their sources and the evidence adduced. This being so... the same forum has posts from people - so far proved right regarding earlier claims - who reckon that Russia has already lost or removed nearly all of its air assets in Crimea; again no evidence, only opinion, but it will be interesting to see if this is backed up by the MSM sooner or later.
All that Russia now has left in Sevastopol is one old sub and a few landing craft, from having had a couple of dozen ships based there when it started the war. Of course a fair number of ships have been sunk or destroyed by Ukraine but, still, it's quite an achievement for Ukraine to force Russia to evacuate.
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Indeed but vlad does also value the impact he can have on his useful idiots outside Russia.
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Hindsight
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The useful idiots don’t care. They have no interest in Ukraine only self serving their own political and economic interest and no thought of the wider consequences of this atrocious war and incursion on a sovereign state.
Over 110 Ukrainian settlements come under Russian artillery fire – General Staff report
VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — FRIDAY, 6 OCTOBER 2023, 07:19
Over 110 Ukrainian settlements come under Russian artillery fire – General Staff report
Over the course of 5 October, 37 clashes took place on the front lines, the Russian occupying forces launched 3 missile and 65 air strikes.
www.pravda.com.ua
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That is a rather predictable and a very stupid thing to write. The Telegraph has an obvious and open editorial bias toward the right, just as The Guardian has to the left; but since neither make a secret of this, any reader is forewarned regarding their editorial and opinion pieces.The Telegraph - reliable media,
Nonetheless, they both have a credible and reliable reputation for journalistic integrity and the reporting of fact, and so may be trusted to do so. I have subscribed to both for years and find that they prove entirely reliable regarding objective news reporting.
However, if a fellow recognises himself as something of a thicky, he is to be congratulated on his level of self-awareness and is best advised to avoid any part of the media that contains editorial leaning and espouses opinion.
Hindsight
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The Telegraph - reliable media,
That is a rather predictable and a very stupid thing to write. The Telegraph has an obvious and open editorial bias toward the right, just as The Guardian has to the left; but since neither make a secret of this, any reader is forewarned regarding their editorial and opinion pieces.
Nonetheless, they both have a credible and reliable reputation for journalistic integrity and the reporting of fact, and so may be trusted to do so. I have subscribed to both for years and find that they prove entirely reliable regarding objective news reporting.
However, if a fellow recognises himself as something of a thicky, he is to be congratulated on his level of self-awareness and is best advised to avoid any part of the media that contains editorial leaning and espouses opinion.
The reference came from a press release from Institute for War. Is widely available and qouted on Twitter yesterday afternoon.
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The 'reference' to what?
If you are referring to the Russian fleet moving / being moved, it's been the shave on military fora since last weekend (and maybe before that without my noticing). But, as I wrote, I hadn't seen anything verifiable / reliable until yesterday so, rather than make a claim which might later prove to be rubbish, I kept schtum until I came across something definite.
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Bit less tetchy D old fella. Out the wrong side of bed this morn! I was only replying to you and Pie face that the ISW released a report about this issue and maybe the DT qouted it from there. My reply I suppose was more intended for Pie Face but I brought your qoute in. Hey h.
Danllan
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Not tetchy, merely 'precise'...
Hindsight
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Not tetchy, merely 'precise'...
Yes, sorry - you can see I would have struggled in the military!!
The bruising artillery battle in Ukraine has left a scar that is visible from space
October 6, 20235:01 AM ETHeard on Morning Edition
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Geoff Brumfiel
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Daniel Wood
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I struggled in the military! My inherent laziness and slovenliness were significant disadvantages and took a lot to get the better of. Fortunately I am pretty dogged and my better qualities compensated for my many failings. Still hate shaving daily... so don't!
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This video should be headline news on all media.
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