- Location
- East Sussex
Review. I wonder how that’s going to go.
I’ve probably missed it but what exactly are they reviewing and how?
I’ve probably missed it but what exactly are they reviewing and how?
Minette Batters NFU president
- Thread starter warksfarmer
- Start date
- Location
- Near Derby
I went to my local branch AGM last night and we had a talk on SFI. Later I mentioned the green module and was informed that Tom Bradshaw was a bit confused about what had been agreed at the RT meeting in September. I was furious about it and said that MB and TB were liars, not many of the farmers there seemed bothered and thought the postponing the green module showed how democratic the NFU were.
How many actual working farmers would you guess were in attendance who were not past or present office holders
- Location
- Near Derby
wow, fair old meeting then
matthew
Member
- Location
- Cornwall, SW England
Echo chamber.
- Location
- Northumberland
They maybe wanted a representative sample of their members. Wonder if there were another 94 folks from supermarkets in the room
tullah
Member
- Location
- Linconshire
How gullible
- Location
- Essex
I don't think they have actually said what, but they keep saying it's going to be independent, which will be the interesting bit.
- Location
- Scottish Borders
Be a bit like the review of Coutts Bank after the Farage debanking!
- Location
- Northumberland
I’m interested in how ‘independent’ the reviews will be.
If the NFU commissions someone to look into these matters (and perhaps sets the scope of the investigations), then they are not really any more independent of the NFU than any of their other employees.
I wonder at what point if ever we will be allowed to know.
I don’t have much faith in the GFC review anyway. Who will they be speaking to? The various NFUs? RT? AHDB? BRC? These people all seen to think it’s a spiffing idea in principle with relatively minor tweaks. If they asked me, I’d say it should NEVER be allowed except if it can be kept firmly in its box (ie. explicit payments for works being undertaken and never to become compulsory).
- Location
- East Yorkshire
independent in uk agriculture with all the cross over directors etc is going to be challenging to say the least
- Location
- East Yorkshire
just take poor old bradshaw he cant seam to remember what he agreed to or if he was even there although on 2 different boards??
ahdb cant even say who was there at the vote or how they did even vote if they happened to be there or not
ahdb cant even say who was there at the vote or how they did even vote if they happened to be there or not
- Location
- Near Derby
There were a total of 18 with the former chairmen and women and group secretaries and county chairman. I just answered the question "how many were there who weren't previous office holders."
Very nice Bass as well. (That is the beer, not the fish.)
- Location
- Near Derby
Yes some are gullible, but remember only 296 people have voted on this post. That makes 111,204 farmers who haven't voted.
I think us posters don't have the majority view that we thought we had. Last year Minette Batters got a good round of applause after my criticism of RT.
Give it a year and we will all be filling in our Green Module forms and the NFU will be having meetings to show us how to do it better.
I agree with Nigel Lawson who thought man made climate change was a hoax.
- Location
- Essex
They have said it's going to be independent. It's up to them whoever "they" are to show independence. Otherwise it's just a whitewash.
- Location
- Cirencester
Which it will be, foregone conclusion in my mind.
Austin7
Member
Sadly Minette has got herself in a corner, so much political capital has been placed on Net Zero and so automatically support for the RT Green Module" it is difficult to see a way out. Our chance to get back to reality can only come with the new President.
The NFU are not ignorant of the reality, their official response to the Governments Committee on Climate change dated 7thDecember 2018 stated:
The NFU led extensive agricultural industry discussions with Government which established realistic goals for reducing agricultural Green House Gas GHG emissions towards a minimum future level, through a wide range of technologies and changes to farm practice, leading to improved management systems and increased productivity. However, there will still be a limit beyond which it may not be biologically possible to make further reductions. Within the constraints of our farming systems and practices, the NFU does not believe that agriculture could get close to net zero emissions.
Agricultural GHG emissions are very different from other sectors of the economy since they depend upon biological processes, human nature a changing climate and the limitations of measurement. There are also well-understood risks that any measures that reduce our competitiveness as food producers would merely export the GHG emissions associated with meeting UK food needs, and potentially even increase emissions at a global level.
Then just 4 weeks later, over the Christmas break, our new President had solved all these issues and without wasting time with democracy committed the industry at the Oxford Farming conference on 4thJanuary 2019 too:
Well they are clearly behind the curve , as the EU and UK are delaying net zero now they realise it's horrendous cost
Hammer
Member
- Location
- South Norfolk
What a massive missed opportunity to set the record straight regarding emissions and agriculture.