- Location
- Ceredigion
You be more or less left with grass by year 4 , they don't have White clover in that makes them worse
Only option them is to oveseed herbs and clover or start again , unless you let it go Rough and self seed itself
GS4/Herbal Leys
- Thread starter DairyNerd
- Start date
Only option them is to oveseed herbs and clover or start again , unless you let it go Rough and self seed itself
- Location
- somerset
having grazed once, our steep bank, is showing the extent of how plantain can spread, rapidly, seeding now, l cannot see any possibility of it not lasting, it is taking over in big patches, problem, not really, grass is unreliable in that bank, cows like it, = grazing when very dry.
Put some rough trials in of various clovers/legumes last year, Trefoil and Aslike, are the only two that grew back this spring, and very good growth. The docks were the other major plant, patch only 1/3 acre, so sprayed the lot off. Elsewhere, crimson clover, sown in patches last year, is now flowering, didn't think it would over winter.
Chicory in its 3rd year, is still coming well, in some places, not others.
Put some rough trials in of various clovers/legumes last year, Trefoil and Aslike, are the only two that grew back this spring, and very good growth. The docks were the other major plant, patch only 1/3 acre, so sprayed the lot off. Elsewhere, crimson clover, sown in patches last year, is now flowering, didn't think it would over winter.
Chicory in its 3rd year, is still coming well, in some places, not others.
heritagefarmer
Member
- Location
- Norfolk
You can make contact with the people who look after the HEFER maps and they can write an email/ letter to say the GS4 option is fine on your site.
Have had some success in doing this.
Home - Historic Environment Farm Environment Record (HEFER) Portal
myshinedata.org.uk
Picking up an old thread here,
Planning on growing GS4 as a grazable break crop on arable land;;
& sfi herbal ley ,as a reseed on grass land, to cut and graze. Just a bit concerned about having too much material to sow into , when it's time to reseed again, at the end of each ley.
Any body got any suggestions, cheers.
Planning on growing GS4 as a grazable break crop on arable land;;
& sfi herbal ley ,as a reseed on grass land, to cut and graze. Just a bit concerned about having too much material to sow into , when it's time to reseed again, at the end of each ley.
Any body got any suggestions, cheers.
- Location
- Essex
Use a disc drill maybe?
Maybe on the grass land ?
Just trying to avoid a massive build up of material that even disc drills can't cope with.
We like to plough after break crops, for a nice clean start.
- Location
- Essex
In my experience that isn't a problem.
Good to know H.V.F. , seriously want this to work.
If it works & can graze & cut successfully could be a big game changer for us .
- Location
- Essex
There's a thread somewhere on how to best conserve this stuffGood to know H.V.F. , seriously want this to work.
If it works & can graze & cut successfully could be a big game changer for us .
Seen a few ideas on silaging, looks promising, think you can silage sfi h.l.,, not sure if you can on c.s G.S.4 though?
- Location
- Essex
You can cut or graze either. Make sure you get good advice though
Which are you applying for C.S or SFI? I've going to put everything In SAM3 ,cause no restrictions on cutting and fert used, easier which doesn't effect the way I manage our farms.
Its a great option I must say
Going for G.S.4 on arable land where we need fencing grants,, & sfi on grassland where we've got fencing & would prefer less restrictions .
Jdunn55
Member
- Location
- Helston, cornwall
What's Sam 3?
Herbal ley in SFI, much less prescriptive than GS4, so much so that it is almost hard to work out what you are actually expected to do!
- Location
- Ceredigion
They are going to make announcement on this next month , seems they want it to mirror GS4 more than we think
So basically people who sign up could then see the goalposts shift, is that supposed to fill us with confidence