Buyers incoming from outside the area won’t know about that and how foolish the system is though, so that’s the main thing.
Cause of flooding from storm Henk
- Thread starter Kidds
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- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I don't know how you dry out a timber frame house with rockwool in the cavity and plasterboard walls? Pull off the plasterboard and pull the wet rockwool out of the cavity?
Paddington
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- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
We have houses round here that are flooded most years now, yet these houses are hundreds of years old. Did these houses always flood ? A hundred years ago houses would not have electricity, fitted carpets or wall insulation. Apparently our kitchen use to be regularly flooded many years ago, the owners would use the event to wash down the floor and walk about on pallets until the water subsided.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
have a nephew whose house is regularly flooded by the Severn. He has completely refitted the lower floors so they are flood proof with cement render rather than plaster boards tiled cement floors raised electric points etc .
Then his neighbour came round with pictures of the house in 1947 the floods were at the level of his bedroom windows
luckily they have had northing like it since
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I visited a builder doing work on a holiday let that was down in the Towy valley, and in a flood risk area. There was a lovely oak staircase in the old farmhouse, however the first half a dozen treads were stone built, with the wooden stairs only starting from there. It does not take that much extra expense to build a house that is more flood resilient.have a nephew whose house is regularly flooded by the Severn. He has completely refitted the lower floors so they are flood proof with cement render rather than plaster boards tiled cement floors raised electric points etc .
Then his neighbour came round with pictures of the house in 1947 the floods were at the level of his bedroom windows
luckily they have had northing like it since
We built an annexe on the farmhouse here that is timber frame, but no flood risk and the choice was because of speed of construction. If I was in a flood risk area it would be concrete (tiled) floors, sand & cement rendered walls on the interior, no skirtings etc so a pressure washer could almost make the house habitable pretty quickly. I suppose kitchen would be expensive and new doors/linings. Son rented a flat in Swindon, they called it a coach house, basically a new build flat over the top of the garages. Flood resilient.
I have seen a water infiltration rig at groundswell, regen farmed soil can infiltrate far more water so less run off. I wonder how that would affect peak flow? Guessing once the soil is full (or at field capacity) not much, but it may reduce flash floods.
I think a lot of the flooding problems can be laid at the foot of the planners allowing building on flood plains.
Paddington
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- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
Our kitchen has flooded twice in the last few years although we are at over 800 ft ASL, because of poor design, the kitchen floor is below the ground level hard against the wall and maintenance of storm drains (me!).
We are allways very fortunate, weather wise to very rarely get the extremes, such as heavy snow fall, or storm damage, other parts of the uk get, we are in the "soft" part of the uk, essex, yes the crouch, (river) does flood, breaks its banks, gives some of my grazing a nice does of plastic debri, etc, when it recedes? Why i posted is this, we had up to the early 1970s no mains sewage, we had septic tanks etc, back then the population houses were a third less what they are now and counting? Then they laid a mains sewer system throughout our village, part of which runs ajacent to the river crouch, (we have 2 sewer inspection cast iron covers in my grazing fields, up to about 20 odd years , raw sewage never used to pour out of these covers, now every time we have heavy rain, raw sewage blows/floods, out of these covers into the river? Our next door neighbour, whos put in permission for a number of static caravans, must have complained to the water/sewage board, because the other day we had a dozen bods, in three vans clad in luminous vests and trousers have a "look" at the manholes? Nothing short term fix, without someone/body etc spending millions on upgrading the whole sewage pipe etc infricstructure, ? Mean while the building both few and mass goes on and with the projected numbers?more many, what will happen? Hopefully id be gone, others will have to face this problem?
Lazy Sod
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- Location
- Warminster Wiltshire
Perhaps a short concrete leggo block placed on each cover would be a good idea. Lift it off the loader when required for inspection purposes.
Lakesdigger
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That's something that's often overlooked or forgotten with the generations before us as they've passed, yes a lot of building on flood plains etc has happened plus a lot of tarmac, concrete etc but if you go back far enough many places have flooded before and often regularly.have a nephew whose house is regularly flooded by the Severn. He has completely refitted the lower floors so they are flood proof with cement render rather than plaster boards tiled cement floors raised electric points etc .
Then his neighbour came round with pictures of the house in 1947 the floods were at the level of his bedroom windows
luckily they have had northing like it since
It's ok blaming climate change, river maintenance and changing weather patterns but in some cases we've maybe had 50 years where it's not been so bad so we've built on areas which we think don't flood but it turns out we were wrong. Same as maintaining rivers the ea don't see the need to do it as there's been a few easier going decades now we we're seeing the problems.
Buggerallbandwidth
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And the cows, don't forget the cows.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
Quite right, but with climate change, they keep promising us bringing more of this, building on flood plains etc. etc. surely any politician worth his salt would be pressing the EA to expand the capacity of rivers by any means possible , be it deepening straitening or widening. Yet all we hear from all these toss pots are rewilding and let nature take its course
wanton dwarf
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Pretty much, the wet Summer setup the Winter for flooding IMHO, prior to that we never had a good dry spell
Noticed a LOT of dead wood on the floor of the wood, never seen so much small branches
Have several places in ditches where dead wood & hedge cuttings/leaves are causing water to be held back, stopping field drains from being clear - clean one yesterday by hand which looked to be started by Wild Roses - over a foot difference once cleared - this was a ditch taking a large 1 foot pipe from the local A road & another farm - which we have had blocked by Badger nests before
Anyway job done
wanton dwarf
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I was told yesterday that Trees & Hedges "Hold back the flood" by the numpties
They ought to be thrown in the water to see if they hold back the flood - worth a try I think
Lakesdigger
Member
Oh aye climate change, but it rained enough before to make it flood so why is it climate change now. They don't look back far enough and they bullsh*t/complicate rainfall figures to suit their agenda to cover there shortcomings/ lack of maintenance
goldeneagle
Member
To coin a phrase talk is cheap and that's all these quangos seem to be able to achieve. Heard the news today that the EA spokeswomans reason for the flooding was climate change. Unless we have validated records from up to 500 years ago this point could be argued as heating and cooling cycles have been documented over the planets history. History for the modern generation is 15 years it seems.
This weather pattern we are experiencing is not unheard of, just seems everyone in charge is using Davos and WEF latest buzz word of climate change to ascertain blame and get you to change your life outlook.
In the 70s it was global cooling, 80s acid rain so who knows what they will come on with next once everyone stops gorging on the BS they peddle.
The budgets available to the EA would be better spent on maintaining watercourses by contracting the landowners who border it where it needs normal machinery. Obviously the bigger water courses would need their own specialist crew and equipment.
This won't happen as all these quangos seem to exist to do is shift blame and reward the staff handsomely for failure. Need less overpaid management and more machines and boots on the ground operating them.
grainboy
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- Location
- Bedfordshire
Bedford today,
Seen it worse that that in my 65 yrs,
But look at all the commercial buildings,
Seen it worse that that in my 65 yrs,
But look at all the commercial buildings,
Never knew the ancient Egyptians made it to Bedford!
grainboy
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- Location
- Bedfordshire
Swimming pool