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The only small positive from this is that the longer they continue on this path the greater the fall will be. Plenty of people we’ll never see interest rates where they were again. I never thought we would but unless something drastic happens they will have to be dropped in order to stimulate something.

Gov should be onto banks now to reduce their margins though. We bailed them out in 2008 and not seen that back. Now’s the time for them to take a small cut

Banks have made huge money in the past 18 months
 

Tubbylew

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Herefordshire
Labour now admitted they won’t cap bank bonus ,the country is broke the rich get richer and the rest have parted with the last drop of blood.
The opposition (insert party here) are no different to the rest, folk will vote for them thinking it'll change things, it won't. They'll stay there for a spell, folk'll get sick of them because nothings changed, then the other lot will have ago and the cycle will repeat ad infinitum.
 

BrianV

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Dartmoor
The opposition (insert party here) are no different to the rest, folk will vote for them thinking it'll change things, it won't. They'll stay there for a spell, folk'll get sick of them because nothings changed, then the other lot will have ago and the cycle will repeat ad infinitum.
Usually one lot dismantles what the previous lot did & then spends a fortune replacing it, & so it goes on.
 

BrianV

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Dartmoor
Is that the same 2020 when everyone stopped working cos of Covid? Or is it a different 2020? :unsure:
Far to many companies are now running losses & offsetting past losses against any potential profits for the government to have any money to spare but they won't care as any tax give aways will be for the next government to renege on which is unlikely to be this lot.
 
Yep exactly. 5 yr rates are at 3.64% now so selling 3.99% fixed mortgages now still leaves some money on the table for the lender, and if their mortgage trading desks were on the ball (which they almost certainly were) they could have locked in at ~3.35% - nice profit for them!
but when will people grasp that banks aernt just making a 0.5% margin, theyre allowed to make nearly all of the money up out of thin air
 

teslacoils

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Lincolnshire
but when will people grasp that banks aernt just making a 0.5% margin, theyre allowed to make nearly all of the money up out of thin air
I mean, they do need a license though. It's as if the system sustains a healthy version of musical chairs between banks, government, and regulator. With the wheels greased with knighthoods and bungs. Sorry, not bungs. They call them "non executive directorships".
 

pellow

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Newquay
Bailey stresses that, while the overarching target is to get to 2%, the country does not need to be exactly there to shift the base rate.

“We don’t need to see inflation back at target. We need confidence it’s going there," he says




Thats the variable, that translates to, when the US drop interest rates, we will follow suit

IMF says we shouldn't cut taxes, from the highest tax burden in UK for 70 years, we'll have a job to cut taxes now as it probably means we'll have a downgrade on our credit rating and if we do get in the shite IMF will be stricter with conditions attached to bail out money

County and city councils are going to go bankrupt unless their tax take can be increased, looks like the government is going to allow them to increase council tax rates at their discression

UK cannot cut its interest rates until the US leads the cuts, unless we want to decrease the value of the £ to the $ and having the knock on inflation affects
 

Steevo

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Gloucestershire
Bailey stresses that, while the overarching target is to get to 2%, the country does not need to be exactly there to shift the base rate.

“We don’t need to see inflation back at target. We need confidence it’s going there," he says




Thats the variable, that translates to, when the US drop interest rates, we will follow suit

IMF says we shouldn't cut taxes, from the highest tax burden in UK for 70 years, we'll have a job to cut taxes now as it probably means we'll have a downgrade on our credit rating and if we do get in the shite IMF will be stricter with conditions attached to bail out money

County and city councils are going to go bankrupt unless their tax take can be increased, looks like the government is going to allow them to increase council tax rates at their discression

UK cannot cut its interest rates until the US leads the cuts, unless we want to decrease the value of the £ to the $ and having the knock on inflation affects

Spot on.

And the one thing still not being talked about is cutting government spending.
 
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Anyway, with the (entirely caused by government taxation on goods) recent inflation figures, and the BoE bosses enforcing the whip on members, it was pleasing to see one vote for a rate cut today.

Given the federal reserve yesterday, this was entirely to the script.

astonishingly though 2 of them voted for an increase! Bring back beheading i say for these absolute cock Wombles. No doubt living in an ivory tower. twits
 

teslacoils

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astonishingly though 2 of them voted for an increase! Bring back beheading i say for these absolute cock Wombles. No doubt living in an ivory tower. twits
This is a confidence trick. They knew it wasnt going to happen, so could vote for a rise with no fear it would occur.

In the same way as a political party in opposition will say the government is wrong in anything it does, and suggest golden elephants for all if they get in. Then get in and change nothing.

Spot on.

And the one thing still not being talked about is cutting government spending.

You have to look long an hard for a time when nominal government spending, or nominal numbers of civil servants, fell.
 
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This is a confidence trick. They knew it wasnt going to happen, so could vote for a rise with no fear it would occur.

In the same way as a political party in opposition will say the government is wrong in anything it does, and suggest golden elephants for all if they get in. Then get in and change nothing.



You have to look long an hard for a time when nominal government spending, or nominal numbers of civil servants, fell.
But what happens if the other agreed? Shitty end of the stick for everyone and more business going under
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire
But what happens if the other agreed? Shitty end of the stick for everyone and more business going under
I think if you look at the makeup of the BoE MPC, then that would be unlikely to happen - there are 9 members of which 4 are "external" ie government appointed. Three of them have been fairly consistently the "odd ones out", so as long as the 5 from the Bank stick together, then its pretty much bombproof. All the voting details can be found and graphed from the BoE website, including todays vote.

Its more about "direction of travel", and being seen to be being tough. It would have been a huge own goal, had the recent blip in inflation - caused by the govt taxes on booze, fags etc - resulted in the external / government appointed members of the MPC voted in such a way as to put interest rates up! I mean, they would have had to be gilt edged idiots to not have seen that.

Trajectory is lower. But the Tories are getting perilously close to going "in the bin", so seeing where the tax cuts etc go in March will be good - will they be leaving the treasury with a "theres no money left" note in the style of Liam Byrne?
 

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