Is Farm Assurance stressful

How stressful do you find the prospect of a Farm Assurance inspection

  • Not at all

    Votes: 12 4.8%
  • A small amount

    Votes: 35 14.1%
  • A significant amount

    Votes: 117 47.0%
  • A main cause of stress

    Votes: 87 34.9%

  • Total voters
    249
  • Poll closed .

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
I've had less than 30 hours of sleep for the past 7 days because of red tractor hanging over my head.

I'm due a spot inspection at some point in the next month or two.

I went to bed at 1am last night and was up again at 4am doing paperwork.
The night before was 3:30am and 6am.
I can not sleep atm because all I can think about is the water trough that needs pressure washing or the amount of freeboard on the slurry pit, or the cows tail that's dirty.
I was out tidying the medicine cabinet and AI room last night and was pee'd off because I didn't get around to cleaning up the pile of dirt I had brushed up.
I can no longer stop my hands from shaking during the day and get waves off chest pain and unbelievable headaches that no amount of paracetamol, ibuprofen or even codeine will touch.

I do my best to ignore it and focus on the positives (sold 2 bulls to stud recently, cows are calving in and milking really well, fertility a big improvement on last year etc) but they're always in the back of my mind making me feel awful. There's better days but most are bad, if they phone me on a bad day to say they're on the way I don't think things will go well for me.

I invited my milk buyer out this week as she used to do red tractor audits and overall she was happy, the cows look really good and isn't worried about them, she said I need an overall tidy up which I knew anyway but find it very hard in the winter when you're fighting with mud, rain and short days to keep things tidy, but like I say fairly happy overall, and yet I can guarantee red tractor would come and give me a list and a half of things they want done yesterday.

I'm trying my best and the cows always come first and look great, my milk buyer is happy with what I send and yet red tractor have deemed me appropriate for a spot inspection which personally I think should be reserved for farms with massive milk supply issues (antibiotics in the tank etc) or with cows dropping dead and looking like sh!t.

So yes, for me atleast, farm assurance is stressful and they make feel like sh!t.

effin Nora m8☹

suspect you're caught twixt love of the cows/job and the misery of rt

it really shouldn't be like that be that way.....decent ppl persecuted in the name of chasing a few 'bad apples '.....the latter, not giving sh!t....often get away with it anyway
 

nails

Member
Location
East Dorset
Not stressful at all . A pain in the arse making up all the medicine records apart from the few days after the last inspection when you thought you ought to be a good boy . :D
I only am a member for taking young bulls to ABP , Both markets near me i am down £100 a head on young bulls.(n)
 

slackjawedyokel

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
I voted ‘A significant amount’ because there are plenty of things that come at you in life which are, in the moment, more stressful than an RT inspection.
I was undecided between that and ‘A main cause of stress’ though because it probably is the biggest predictable cause of stress in my working life.
Like others, I do get a bit stressed in the weeks prior to an inspection- end up awake at night thinking about random bits of paperwork I must remember to review and so forth. Can’t help but feel I’d be a better and fresher farmer without all the mission-creep rubbish that comes with RT these days.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
and all set up and encouraged by you ever caring and sharing nfu.

irony is there's plenty of work for busy bodies like sort out the crap ear tag shambles and lobby for increased wayleave payments to keep up with higher energy costs how is that just? or more control on dogs worrying livestovck and off their leads sh.itting every where spreading desease. or gardeners trimming hedges several times a year upsetting siong birds nests , or the water boards dropping shite in the water or come down hard on the councils and their buget to get something down to the roads that are decayibg a t a steady rate and random housenuilding destroying the ruarl landsacpe and comunity. or those in foreign countries who have to drink ourt of dirty holes

worlds a shite hole really needs sustantial reduction in popilation of wasters nomialy.
 
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texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
I think RT is particularly stressful for the farmers of more advanced years who have no children ,following in their footsteps, who could help especially with the aspect of computer work.During Covid one elderly farmer told me RT wanted to do an inspection via a Zoom meeting.He didn't know what Zoom was !
 

Gedd

Member
Livestock Farmer
Had my audit last Thursday two people came, one starting the job so was being supervised. Probably the worst one I've had they arrived at 2.30 pm and didn't finish till 6.45 I still had sheep to feed after that as well. think it took me a day or so to relax again.
Told the last one coukd have an hour and half max of my time she said it wasnt plenty was done in an hour and quarter dont bow down to them be freindly but dont put up with being bullied
 

Wombat

Member
BASIS
Location
East yorks
I think RT is particularly stressful for the farmers of more advanced years who have no children ,following in their footsteps, who could help especially with the aspect of computer work.During Covid one elderly farmer told me RT wanted to do an inspection via a Zoom meeting.He didn't know what Zoom was !
Bit like NPTC running Nroso during covid. They kicked dad out as he was in a vulnerable group and really struggled to get points when i rang to explain the first thing their phone message said was due to covid our staff are working from home, fecking about in the hot tub, watching youtube, learning yoga in the garden (delete which may apply) so things maybe delayed. When i said due to been a covid vulnerable group he hadn't been out the farm for like a year and not been able to get they points they said covid wasn't an excuse. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 

texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
Bit like NPTC running Nroso during covid. They kicked dad out as he was in a vulnerable group and really struggled to get points when i rang to explain the first thing their phone message said was due to covid our staff are working from home, fecking about in the hot tub, watching youtube, learning yoga in the garden (delete which may apply) so things maybe delayed. When i said due to been a covid vulnerable group he hadn't been out the farm for like a year and not been able to get they points they said covid wasn't an excuse. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I see people,I know,still working from home and you see on social media they have just done a 50 mile bike ride,or been to the gym , and occasionally they may do a little work.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
yes theres plenty that needs doing but isnt and valuable resources wasted on sh!t thats not society is got wrong by the greedy who see a way of controlling an ciniving time and money out of others
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
Had an inspection during covid.man called and said I’d have to walk round and show him stuff on my phone.I was completely lost till he explained it all.think he was more interested in my mums house than alot of stuff,having seen it via zoom or whatever it’s called.he did query the manufacturers plate on my krm spreader as he could not read the serial number in the back of a dark shed.what the hell do they need that for
nick…
 

thorpe

Member
I think RT is particularly stressful for the farmers of more advanced years who have no children ,following in their footsteps, who could help especially with the aspect of computer work.During Covid one elderly farmer told me RT wanted to do an inspection via a Zoom meeting.He didn't know what Zoom was !
can't remember talking to you! zoom? that was a ice lolly when i was a kid!
 

slackjawedyokel

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
We’ve been FA for a few years longer than we’ve been organic.
I’ve said this before; in the early days, the organic inspection was the real PITA whereas the FA inspection was an easy half-hour looking through a few records we were legally required to keep anyway.
Then we required this bit of paper. Then that. Then we had to have FA for grains as well as B&L because it was becoming difficult to find buyers otherwise. Then we had to have a policy on this and a policy on that etc etc.
Now the situation has reversed. The organic inspection has continued as being broadly similar and requiring the same stuff as 21 years ago whereas the RT inspection has snowballed.

My organic body also offers RT inspections so I get all three (incl cereals and B&L) done on the same day. The inspector said they’ve grown to dislike doing RT inspections, and in their opinion RT is a toxic organisation. Apparently inspectors get ~£40 for doing an RT inspection, which in the case of dairy involves checking around 800 things!! I feel a bit sorry for the inspectors TBH - perhaps that’s just Stockholm Syndrome?
 

john63

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
East Lincs
I don't find farm assurance inspections stressful, but it does all seem like a massive waste of time and a box ticking exercise. Just got to tell them what they want to hear and make sure that all the paperwork is in order, plus whatever additional piece has been added for this year. What I will say is that we used to be beef and lamb assured as well as combinable crops, but we gave up with that once it became clear that there was no premium - sometimes the assured stock made less than the non-assured!

We've got on very well with the majority of the inspectors, most have been farmers as well and have taken a realistic view of how clean it's possible to get a grain store, or that there might be the odd empty bag or piece of scrap in the yard. We always try to make things as easy as possible for the inspectors on the day, by making sure that everything is uploaded to the portal, so that they can see it beforehand and we have anything else they might need to hand. Rarely does it take more than an hour.

Hopefully there will be a premium again one day!
 

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