The war in Ukraine...

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
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Dartmoor
So because he feels there needs to be change,(if he actually does)they are now his enemies?The response”it s on Brian s wish list” seems accurate🤔
There's no chance of negotiations whilst Zelensky is in charge as he's nailed his colours to the mast with no way back, if there is any chance of bringing this mess to an end it will be after he is deposed.
 

Robbt

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Trade
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Alberta
There's no chance of negotiations whilst Zelensky is in charge as he's nailed his colours to the mast with no way back, if there is any chance of bringing this mess to an end it will be after he is deposed.
Again,because he might feel the need to change things they are now his enemies,it s not even confirmed that he wants to change.Keep grasping at straws
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
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Dartmoor
So if you were zelensky how would the almighty brian have handled this war?
Very simple, knowing what an invasion by Russia would involve & the fact that everyone knew once they moved in the cost of any war would be catastrophic for any country you would have to accept staying out of NATO with security guarantees instead was a price well worth paying.
Zelensky was an inexperienced dreamer badly misled by the West which has been a disaster for his country & people.
 

quattro

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scotland
Very simple, knowing what an invasion by Russia would involve & the fact that everyone knew once they moved in the cost of any war would be catastrophic for any country you would have to accept staying out of NATO with security guarantees instead was a price well worth paying.
Zelensky was an inexperienced dreamer badly misled by the West which has been a disaster for his country & people.
Didn’t know they'd joined NATO
so what about the other countrys that have joined
if your neighbor told you not to do something would u just agree to not do it
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
Very simple, knowing what an invasion by Russia would involve & the fact that everyone knew once they moved in the cost of any war would be catastrophic for any country you would have to accept staying out of NATO with security guarantees instead was a price well worth paying.
Zelensky was an inexperienced dreamer badly misled by the West which has been a disaster for his country & people.
Which bit of; 'Putin's goal was to invade, occupy and install a pro Russian puppet government like Belarus' don't you yet understand? :banghead:
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
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Dartmoor
Which bit of; 'Putin's goal was to invade, occupy and install a pro Russian puppet government like Belarus' don't you yet understand? :banghead:
If that was the intention why the multiple delays in going in whilst all the time it was well known the West was stuffing Ukraine with appropriate weapons & special services, the way it was done & the conscripts involved with both lack of fuel, provisions & timing does not point to a well planned invasion, more an amateurish bluff to put pressure on Ukraine to negotiate that went wrong.
It suited Biden & America to force the invasion to go ahead & weaken Russia.
 

linga

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Ceredigion
Very simple, knowing what an invasion by Russia would involve & the fact that everyone knew once they moved in the cost of any war would be catastrophic for any country you would have to accept staying out of NATO with security guarantees instead was a price well worth paying.
Zelensky was an inexperienced dreamer badly misled by the West which has been a disaster for his country & people.
What security guarantees?
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
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Dartmoor
What security guarantees?
As long as Ukraine was determined to join NATO & NATO was determined to pretend they wanted them in then security guarantees were not an option, I've a feeling Trump in the way he does would have made it very clear Ukraine would never join NATO & Russia could hang on to Crimea, he would tell them that if Russia still invaded he would nuke them & no one could be sure whether he was serious & things would have calmed down, Biden on the other hand just made it clear that Ukraine joining NATO was non negotiable.
 

linga

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Location
Ceredigion
As long as Ukraine was determined to join NATO & NATO was determined to pretend they wanted them in then security guarantees were not an option, I've a feeling Trump in the way he does would have made it very clear Ukraine would never join NATO & Russia could hang on to Crimea, he would tell them that if Russia still invaded he would nuke them & no one could be sure whether he was serious & things would have calmed down, Biden on the other hand just made it clear that Ukraine joining NATO was non negotiable.
Sounds more hope than guarantee.
I thought Ukraine had existing guarantees anyway. Someone must have broken them
 

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