Protest cancelled due to lack of interest

Panicnow · Feb 10, 2024

Two weeks ago I asked for volunteers to help organise a farmers protest. To make the risk-reward of farming worthwhile.
JUST ONE FARMER STEPPED FORWARD!
In the face of this level of apathy I give up on trying to get (English) farmers to do anything.
Indeed, the vast majority of comments on these threads have been negative, something that is very discouraging for someone who wants to achieve!

My hope is that TFF posters are not typical English farmers, and that someone else can marshall an effective campaign against the unfair treatment of farmers in the food sector.

I'm now negotiating with a solar farm developer to cover the whole of my farm with something that gives a decent, secure return!

farmerm · Feb 10, 2024

To have worthwhile protests we need specific actionable demands. If you are going to lead protests you need to outline what our demands are, you haven’t done so that I has seen.

Protesting for protest sake is counter productive. Look at Just Stop Oil, their demands are too big, too unrealistic and the public despises them.

Panicnow · Feb 10, 2024

rubbish,
The EU farmers tactics are - Protest and see what they offer to shut you up. And it works!

Hilly · Feb 10, 2024

Whats to protest about ? Red fuel ? Tax benefits of the many and livestock trading highest levels ever , land worth more than ever , cheap money , not enough ??

spin cycle · Feb 10, 2024

you've 'answered your own question' I think....for me i'd rather concentrate on 'winning the peace"...ie produce as little food as possible and find other ways to utilise my little 'bit"

I mean....our 'union' is against us...the government is he'll bent on importing as much as possible...the supermarkets want to grind us to dust

I'm of the opinion "give them enough rope'

delilah · Feb 10, 2024

Very good programme on World Service this morning on the European protests. It was pointed out that the reversal in the pesticide ban was already in the pipeline, had been agreed before Christmas, has been dressed up as having been achieved by the protests to make everyone feel they had achieved something. That's the reality of tractor rally protests, everyone lets off steam but the real change comes about through education of the policy makers behind closed doors.

Hilly · Feb 10, 2024

The BSE scam and the way they fuked over the beef industry in them
Days, the sheep job was horrendous financially no one protested , so if you think im going to protest now think again .

Muddyroads · Feb 10, 2024

EU farmers know that they have considerable support from the public, we don’t. The supermarket culture here is far stronger than in Europe and has completely changed the consumers attitude to food.
There is an enormous amount wrong with the state of agriculture in the UK, just as there is across Europe, but we need to find a different way to illustrate this than blockading roads.

Panicnow · Feb 10, 2024

I can't cope with this level of negativity. I'm resigning from The Farming Forum!
I can be reached on email
Bye

Hilly · Feb 10, 2024

spin cycle said:
you've 'answered your own question' I think....for me i'd rather concentrate on 'winning the peace"...ie produce as little food as possible and find other ways to utilise my little 'bit"

I mean....our 'union' is against us...the government is he'll bent on importing as much as possible...the supermarkets want to grind us to dust

I'm of the opinion "give them enough rope'

Im same , just let it unfold …..

delilah · Feb 10, 2024

Panicnow said:
someone who wants to achieve!

If you wish to achieve, then great. Read this post:

https://www.thefarmingforum.co.uk/i...th-signing-i-think.397078/page-9#post-9147561

Now, will you work with me and others to get that measure implemented ? Because that's how we achieve. One specific measure at a time. There is no silver bullet.

Willie adie · Feb 10, 2024

Not a surprise really , us Brits know our place

Hilly · Feb 10, 2024

Panicnow said:
I can't cope with this level of negativity. I'm resigning from The Farming Forum!
I can be reached on email
Bye

Says it all , no metal for a fight anyway just trying to stir the pot and wander off smiling .

Jimdog1 · Feb 10, 2024

Panicnow said:
Two weeks ago I asked for volunteers to help organise a farmers protest. To make the risk-reward of farming worthwhile.
JUST ONE FARMER STEPPED FORWARD!
In the face of this level of apathy I give up on trying to get (English) farmers to do anything.
Indeed, the vast majority of comments on these threads have been negative, something that is very discouraging for someone who wants to achieve!

My hope is that TFF posters are not typical English farmers, and that someone else can marshall an effective campaign against the unfair treatment of farmers in the food sector.

I'm now negotiating with a solar farm developer to cover the whole of my farm with something that gives a decent, secure return!

Pal, you were seen for what you represent from your first post. If there is protesting to be done it will be behind our own banner - not someone else's

Spencer · Feb 10, 2024

Panicnow said:
Two weeks ago I asked for volunteers to help organise a farmers protest. To make the risk-reward of farming worthwhile.
JUST ONE FARMER STEPPED FORWARD!
In the face of this level of apathy I give up on trying to get (English) farmers to do anything.
Indeed, the vast majority of comments on these threads have been negative, something that is very discouraging for someone who wants to achieve!

My hope is that TFF posters are not typical English farmers, and that someone else can marshall an effective campaign against the unfair treatment of farmers in the food sector.

I'm now negotiating with a solar farm developer to cover the whole of my farm with something that gives a decent, secure return!

Unfortunately I don’t think anyone really trusted your intention, to lead a large group of individuals you need to to show leadership, you appeared to just run from thread to threads screaming panic panic panic...

PI Stsker · Feb 10, 2024

You do what’s right for your Buisness, if you see a better return in solar panels then carry on, no point in farming just because you have a farm.
as for having a pop at everyone for not joining you, they obviously all feel that the protest you suggested was little more than a waste of time, due to having no clear actionable demands.
Be sure to let us know how the solar panels go, we may all join you…

Hilly · Feb 10, 2024

delilah said:
Very good programme on World Service this morning on the European protests. It was pointed out that the reversal in the pesticide ban was already in the pipeline, had been agreed before Christmas, has been dressed up as having been achieved by the protests to make everyone feel they had achieved something. That's the reality of tractor rally protests, everyone lets off steam but the real change comes about through education of the policy makers behind closed doors.

I bet the eu governments get what they want slow but sure more stealthy over the nxt decade , they wont be out done by farmers , they know another way to skin a cat , let think timy victory and while celebrating shaft em.

daveydiesel1 · Feb 10, 2024

Get a protest goin in ballymena and il gono problem. Iv plenty of slurry that the ground is too wet to get onto with, i could bring a load or 10

Vorest Tat · Feb 10, 2024

Green washing is what we SHOULD be protesting about,
making our industry the scapegoat for climate change ( whether real or imaginary).

every sector whether profitable or loss making at the moment should be able to unite under one objective. WE ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR CLIMATE CHANGE

Directly protesting against imports in themselves is a bit 'rich' when we export produce. Supermarkets importing and undercutting us with goods produced to illegal standards in the UK and an Higher carbon footprint is what is wrong. To top it off they are then gonna nick our carbon credits, to put against there own emissions......if it wasn't so serious it'd be funny.......

kiwi pom · Feb 10, 2024

Hilly said:
Says it all , no metal for a fight anyway just trying to stir the pot and wander off smiling .

Didn't he say he'd been approached by a BFU member to come on here and stir things up a bit, or am I misremembering?
"protest and see what they offer to shut you up"
Not the greatest plan, can't be that bothered either if he gave up that quick, but then he has a plan B in a solar farm, so hardly desperate.

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