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glasshouse

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Location
lothians
our (family) l/lord point blank refused to spend a single penny on the farm, very acrimonious, to say the least.

so it was agreed that any/all 'tenants improvements' would be liable for compensation, to me, at full mkt value.

mother, l/lord, fell out with original solicitors, and moved to another firm,

she has now kicked the bucket, and after 30 yrs, we are trying to sort things out. Now tenants improvements have been extensive, bungalow, lagoon, buildings, cow tracks and a complete new water system :)

the 'new' solicitors, are trying it on, written off over 10 yrs etc, we have put a claim in for £700,000, just to leave some room for manoeuvre. My sisters are furious. And l don't think they have the paperwork from the original firm, l think the move was not mutually agreed.

they have been asking for 'l/lords agreement', pretty well all the buildings/concrete, were partially done on CSF, grants, which had to be signed by a trustee, obviously done as l got paid.

we are presently at a stalemate, and as it was all fecked up, by solicitors, in the initial documents, l don't think they know quite what to do. I would however, prefer to be 'sorted' out, and a fair offer has been put to them, nearly 1 year ago, with no reply. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Good luck with that.
I have been waiting ten yrs
 
we came out of 50 acres, few years back, warned about dilapidations etc, in the formal notice.

never mentioned again to us, but other tenants on the same estate, had some serious bill to pay.

we have 3 away blocks locally, basically lower rent, with condition that we look after it, no problem with that whatsoever, all 3 done on a handshake. And possibility of being offered more land, been recommended by existing l/lords. So it really pays to look after ground. Interestingly none of those 3 blocks were without land agent involvement. If they had been, rent would be double.

Quite a lot of that kind of agreement about in our region. Land being rented out to people on a nod without it ever appearing for tender.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
@ollie989898 , been suggested, instead of planting grass, as a cover crop behind maize £60/ac, we should try forage rye, glyphosate it late mar/apr, cut it dead, and bale instead of buying in straw.

sounds quite a good idea, using humbolt, not the dear hybrid stuff.

any comments from our resident ex crop walker ? I can't see it not working, and 60 ish acres of that, is a lot of straw.

depending on height, might need to use the baler knives, did combined rye straw years ago, 5 foot high stuff, sod to bale, and evil to spread, wrapped around itself.
 
@ollie989898 , been suggested, instead of planting grass, as a cover crop behind maize £60/ac, we should try forage rye, glyphosate it late mar/apr, cut it dead, and bale instead of buying in straw.

sounds quite a good idea, using humbolt, not the dear hybrid stuff.

any comments from our resident ex crop walker ? I can't see it not working, and 60 ish acres of that, is a lot of straw.

depending on height, might need to use the baler knives, did combined rye straw years ago, 5 foot high stuff, sod to bale, and evil to spread, wrapped around itself.

All fine in theory provided you can get the rye in sensibly. I found that rye and triticale didn't really take to being drilled into mud. Some of the seed options are quite expensive, too.

I have to say I have gone off maize as a crop really. A bad autumn will do that for you.

Sooner grow wheat/triticale, have it cut off in July, plenty of time to put dung on and grass back in. More herbicide options. Yeah I know it's not the same as maize but you can buy that in from the docks rolled and have less grief.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
All fine in theory provided you can get the rye in sensibly. I found that rye and triticale didn't really take to being drilled into mud. Some of the seed options are quite expensive, too.

I have to say I have gone off maize as a crop really. A bad autumn will do that for you.

Sooner grow wheat/triticale, have it cut off in July, plenty of time to put dung on and grass back in. More herbicide options. Yeah I know it's not the same as maize but you can buy that in from the docks rolled and have less grief.
£60 ton for a digestor, soon puts a different perspective on it, not that we will necessarily do that, but that is the offer on the table.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Quite a lot of that kind of agreement about in our region. Land being rented out to people on a nod without it ever appearing for tender.
That's not unusual.

I've been on the wrong end of these where the "top tender" was used to beat me with a stick to put more cash into the agent/landowner's pocket as the existing tenant/contractor. Unsurprisingly, I didn't keep that land for long & was grateful to give it up, given the behaviour of our "partners."

The flip side of this has been where a good tenant contractor was given extra land on the same basis, having done a good job. It's not all bad.
 

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